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raeanna74 · 09-15-2003, 03:18 PM

Oh for pitys sake Sixate. Do you think we should give kids the right to vote since they are MINI adults. Children - esp the age of toddlers and younger have not learned the dangers of the world we live in. Why do you think they run out into the road at times before you can catch them? I know for a fact that adults make mistakes. We wouldn't have car accidents if it wasn't for that fact. Children are more pron to mistakes than adults simply because they do not understand their environment as clearly as adults with more experience do. If you were to put an adult on a leash then you would be "restraining" someone who is expected to understand the dangers of their world. Those adults who don't obey our laws of the land or who endanger themselves or others can be arrested and physically restrained by handcuffs and being put in a prison cell the restraint is much more severe when adults make "mistakes". Shouldn't we be teaching children that when they loose control that others will step in to help them?

In the case in which I would use a leash on my 3 yr old daughter who (though I have explained and shown her the dangers of her world) does not fully understand the risks yet if she wanders off needs a physical reminder to help her learn to follow the limits I give her. Most of the time I do not use the leash. She is well behaved, friendly and well adjusted. When she is tired though she isn't as aware of what she is doing. It is very easy for her to run off and I am not a fast runner (no I am not out of shape just never was fast). I only use the leash when she does not remember to stay nearby while I must concentrate on what I am purchasing. She is not in the least bit shy so if she were to wander off she would not be afraid of a stranger speaking to her. There have been a number of Amber Alerts in our area in recent days and I prefer to know my daughter is close by.

A leash is not demeaning for a child. She does not seem to think so. She has played with it at home with her dolls and does not act as though she is punishing them - she'll even explain to them that it will keep them safe.

A child does not have the self control or the understanding of their world that an adult should have. They simply do not have the experience that an adult has. Likening "leashing" a child to "leashing" an adult is NOT a good argument. Leashing my daughter does not embarrass her. She acts as open and pleasant with it on as with it off. Sometimes she just needs a little help in self control since she is still learning self control.

You seem to think an adult is not a fit parent if they take their eyes off their child for one second. You also seem to think physical restraint is never appropriate. OK so next time my daughter is tired and looses her self control in the store I won't restrain her in any way. I cannot touch her or that would be physical restraint. BUT DON"T you dare criticize me if she runs screaming past you and knocks the items you are carrying onto the floor.

Physical restraint is a proper use of discipline when used in moderation and appropriately.

09-15-2003, 03:18 PM	#76 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Oh for pitys sake Sixate. Do you think we should give kids the right to vote since they are MINI adults. Children - esp the age of toddlers and younger have not learned the dangers of the world we live in. Why do you think they run out into the road at times before you can catch them? I know for a fact that adults make mistakes. We wouldn't have car accidents if it wasn't for that fact. Children are more pron to mistakes than adults simply because they do not understand their environment as clearly as adults with more experience do. If you were to put an adult on a leash then you would be "restraining" someone who is expected to understand the dangers of their world. Those adults who don't obey our laws of the land or who endanger themselves or others can be arrested and physically restrained by handcuffs and being put in a prison cell the restraint is much more severe when adults make "mistakes". Shouldn't we be teaching children that when they loose control that others will step in to help them? In the case in which I would use a leash on my 3 yr old daughter who (though I have explained and shown her the dangers of her world) does not fully understand the risks yet if she wanders off needs a physical reminder to help her learn to follow the limits I give her. Most of the time I do not use the leash. She is well behaved, friendly and well adjusted. When she is tired though she isn't as aware of what she is doing. It is very easy for her to run off and I am not a fast runner (no I am not out of shape just never was fast). I only use the leash when she does not remember to stay nearby while I must concentrate on what I am purchasing. She is not in the least bit shy so if she were to wander off she would not be afraid of a stranger speaking to her. There have been a number of Amber Alerts in our area in recent days and I prefer to know my daughter is close by. A leash is not demeaning for a child. She does not seem to think so. She has played with it at home with her dolls and does not act as though she is punishing them - she'll even explain to them that it will keep them safe. A child does not have the self control or the understanding of their world that an adult should have. They simply do not have the experience that an adult has. Likening "leashing" a child to "leashing" an adult is NOT a good argument. Leashing my daughter does not embarrass her. She acts as open and pleasant with it on as with it off. Sometimes she just needs a little help in self control since she is still learning self control. You seem to think an adult is not a fit parent if they take their eyes off their child for one second. You also seem to think physical restraint is never appropriate. OK so next time my daughter is tired and looses her self control in the store I won't restrain her in any way. I cannot touch her or that would be physical restraint. BUT DON"T you dare criticize me if she runs screaming past you and knocks the items you are carrying onto the floor. Physical restraint is a proper use of discipline when used in moderation and appropriately. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.