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Old 09-15-2003, 12:47 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Conclamo Ludus
For me, I like to think that soldiers kill soldiers, terrorists/suicide bombers/enemy combatants kill anybody they can...on purpose. I know that soldiers make mistakes and innocent people are killed all the time. But innocent people aren't the target or the objective like it is for terrorists. That's how I make the distinction.
I don't agree with that rationale. Part of it seems to stem from the belief that our soldiers only accidentally kill civilians. If you believe what we were told by people with a vested interest (embedded reporters present by invite and reporting under supervision) then you might come to such a conclusion. We may have 'targeted' military sites but our claim that Saddam was responsible for any civilian casualites doesn't hold much water.

I'm not sure what the military sites look like at your location but around here they are all over. If someone were to drop bombs sporadically throughout LA they would definately hit all sorts of shit--and most of it would be civilians. If someone were to drop bombs on San Diego and try to take out our trainind depot and/or 32nd street (naval base) they would also be dropping bombs all over the harbor, some large malls, downtown San Diego, downtown Point Loma, Pacific Coast Highway, I5, some other major freeway connection points, and etc.

In Oregon the Armory was across the street from a strip mall and in the same parking lot as a Taco Bell and Burger King. The adjacent parking lot held a Big 5 and a Trader Joe's type deli. I'm surprised, with the amount of people here that are active military or past-military, that such claims went unchallenged. Anyone who has ever seen or lived in a military town knows exactly what I'm talking about--military "targets" are not left out in a large clump in the middle of the desert unless the government doesn't want anyone getting there.

My understanding of terrorists are that they are non-state sanctioned actors. They are still soldiers, however. They are trained and usually wear uniforms. BTW, for all you gun owners, aren't you part of a militia? I keep hearing that the rationale for your ownership is to maintiain the security of a free state. How then can you claim to not be a valid target when our government declares war on a particular faction of the global population?
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