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wry1 · 09-15-2003, 02:46 AM

Yes, Stud. A party is allowed to gather information so long as the intent is there to either prosecute in a criminal action or to bring the matter before a civil court for trial. However, the RIAA has already stated that they will not be litigating in every case.....yet they still gather the data in every case.

I could understand if the RIAA had to gather this information in order to determine the scope of copyright infringement on the part of an individual, but this can be determined by utilizing the user IDs or the ISP's terminal location information. So why would the RIAA need to compile data for people who don't fall into the criteria they've claimed to be using?

You work for those naughty little Nazi bastards, don't you?

And by the way, a SSN is something which is required to be given only to the IRS, to your banking institutions, and to your employer. I don't know where you got the idea that it's public domain, but it's also a Federal Crime for any of those recipients to divulge it without the permission of the SSN-holder. That's why when you apply for a credit card or a checking/savings account, they ask you to sign that little piece of paper which allows your SSN to be shared with credit reporting agencies and other portions of their financial enterprise.

Get a clue, Gomer. What part of "....to annoy persistently; bother." would not be accurately described by finding out from your ISP that you're being listed, researched, and potentially sued? Yes, the RIAA is not breaking the law with their actions....they sure as hell paid enough for that law to be written and enacted in Congress! Two years ago this would not have even been possible, and yes - they would have been breaking the law as it stood back then.

I for one have a hard time accepting that pre-teen children are capable of being fully cognizant of the ramifications their actions have, and as a result prosecuting them for infractions like this is asinine. But please, Stud....tell me how this is a just course of action: how can punishing someone who is not yet mature enough (or with enough life experience) to know the potential risks of their actions be anything other than diligence run amok?

Tell you what: you review your own life and the actions you've taken during it. If you haven't broken a single law (and jaywalking is included), then feel free to stand on your little soapbox and chide those of us who actually go out there and live in the real world. I will welcome your smug rebuttals with open arms and a smile on my face.

However, if you are like the multitudes out there who have broken a law or two, then by all means voice your opinions (I know I sure do, that's for sure!) but remember that scoffing at others is something which you're not really suited for, as you're pretty much in the same boat as everybody else.

09-15-2003, 02:46 AM	#59 (permalink)
wry1 Loser Location: Far too far from my Angel....	Yes, Stud. A party is allowed to gather information so long as the intent is there to either prosecute in a criminal action or to bring the matter before a civil court for trial. However, the RIAA has already stated that they will not be litigating in every case.....yet they still gather the data in every case. I could understand if the RIAA had to gather this information in order to determine the scope of copyright infringement on the part of an individual, but this can be determined by utilizing the user IDs or the ISP's terminal location information. So why would the RIAA need to compile data for people who don't fall into the criteria they've claimed to be using? You work for those naughty little Nazi bastards, don't you? And by the way, a SSN is something which is required to be given only to the IRS, to your banking institutions, and to your employer. I don't know where you got the idea that it's public domain, but it's also a Federal Crime for any of those recipients to divulge it without the permission of the SSN-holder. That's why when you apply for a credit card or a checking/savings account, they ask you to sign that little piece of paper which allows your SSN to be shared with credit reporting agencies and other portions of their financial enterprise. Get a clue, Gomer. What part of "....to annoy persistently; bother." would not be accurately described by finding out from your ISP that you're being listed, researched, and potentially sued? Yes, the RIAA is not breaking the law with their actions....they sure as hell paid enough for that law to be written and enacted in Congress! Two years ago this would not have even been possible, and yes - they would have been breaking the law as it stood back then. I for one have a hard time accepting that pre-teen children are capable of being fully cognizant of the ramifications their actions have, and as a result prosecuting them for infractions like this is asinine. But please, Stud....tell me how this is a just course of action: how can punishing someone who is not yet mature enough (or with enough life experience) to know the potential risks of their actions be anything other than diligence run amok? Tell you what: you review your own life and the actions you've taken during it. If you haven't broken a single law (and jaywalking is included), then feel free to stand on your little soapbox and chide those of us who actually go out there and live in the real world. I will welcome your smug rebuttals with open arms and a smile on my face. However, if you are like the multitudes out there who have broken a law or two, then by all means voice your opinions (I know I sure do, that's for sure!) but remember that scoffing at others is something which you're not really suited for, as you're pretty much in the same boat as everybody else.