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In order to consider yourself "proficient" with a gun, you should know proper retention and close quarter techniques.
To me the choice is obvious. A gun in the hands of a proficient user will win every time.
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Perhaps I'm taking you too literal and being picky debaser (or simply looking for a good debate

), but while I agree that in *most* situations a gun in the hands of a highly trained owner will "win", there are definitely situations where physical training is preferable.
If you're within striking or grasping distance in front of me with your gun tucked away - or even with your finger off the trigger - I'm not sure I'd put money on you.
But I could come up with specific scenarios all day that would put either you or I at an advantage/disadvantage. Bottom line is that if you're forced to defend yourself (as opposed to taking the offence), chances are your opponent has put himself in the position that it would take for him to "win". Meaning, if he had a gun, he's at least a couple of steps away from me. If someone trained in hand to hand is attacking, he's putting himself right beside you and attacking before you get the chance to pull your weapon. All I'm saying is that it really depends on the scenario as to which training is "best".
