View Single Post
Old 09-12-2003, 01:50 AM   #72 (permalink)
GakFace
Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!!
 
Location: IN, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by 3leggedfrog
yes i know what altrusim is. altruism is set by the culture we live in, when they tell us what is good and what is bad. altuism the ultimate selflessness good act. NORMALLY, but not always, the untimate act, dieing, to advance ones culture in some way. it is even documented as one of three ways to commit suicide from the american psychology assosciation.
First. If you know what altruism is, then the arguement is Over, I gave proof as to what it meant, I gave a DEFINATION.. did you? nope, don't see one. You yet again ran around it, you said it is set by the culture we live in. Ok fine, I wasn't wondering about that.. you said society tells us what is good and what is bad. WHO CARES? THIS is not what I'm debating with you. I'm debating that Altruism EXISTS.. Culture can say its good, but regardless, someone will do it... and if it was a good deed (and you know if it is or not) then It was a good deed and selflessness, and thus Altuism, and I think that means you can't prove your point.

As for that dying part? That too could be altruism.. Perhaps you realize that you're gonna die, so you figure you might as well try to go out with a bang, and help everyone else. Thats not selfish, its only selfish if it makes your death not as bad, if you get a thrill of it.. or if that kinda thing will make you happy and you KNOW it. If you dont' know it makes you happy, then its not selfish. Debate that, but I'll counter you first. Take the first time you went down a slide as a kid. Were you in a selfish mindset for going down the slide? No, because you had no clue if you'd like it or not. Maybe the SECOND time.. you went down it for a selfish reason, but certainly not the first. I hope you caught my point.

Oh and uh, I agree with Wile E here... You haven't proven it, so uh, why don't you go and Prove yourself

Here is a quote... in fact it is your thread title....
"i can prove that it is impossible to do good"

Get Typing!
__________________
RoboBlaster:
Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.
GakFace is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360