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Old 09-10-2003, 05:53 PM   #37 (permalink)
jbrooks544
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A lot of U. S. recycling is a sham (no this is not a flame)

I recycle zero and not ashamed.

Anyone who knows the truth about paper and cardboard recycling (and probably a lot of the rest) knows that it is a complete sham.

I used to be paid good money 8 years ago for truckloads of paper and cardboard that I recycled. Now I have to pay to have it hauled away and sent to landfill or incinerator because there is such a glut of the stuff. Really, this is true - Now that everyone is recycling there isn't anywhere NEAR the market for this stuff and a lot of it is a big waste of effort and costs towns a lot of needless money.

I even know a town very nearby that spent tons of money building recycle center and passing nazi laws requiring recycling, etc. After two years the place was filled up and they found they didn't have the money to haul it away and had to just bury it. It was a travesty! This is about the crunchiest town in Mass. too.

There is a vast oversupply of some recyclables. I'm all for recycling if it is legitimate and does some good. I would be in favor of giving real incentives to businesses to use the stuff, or better yet - how about to not produce it in the first place? duh!

I'm a "liberal" but I'm not an ignorant idiot. I don't blindly believe in things that feel "fuzzy" and sound like the right thing to do without real proof of the facts.

For example, most tree huggers think that nuclear power is dirty and dangerous - so we shouldn't build any nuke plants. Well, the old, existing ones are bad but there are standardized safe cheap approved nuke plant designs now that default to non critical and could eliminate shitloads of coal and oil smoke belching into the air and killing 10's of thousands. What's better, safe clean nukes or being dependant on terrorist muslim oil states and what we have now? If you don't know all about these plants then don't just give me some ignorant dogma instead of actually researching it first and making up your own mind from facts and logic.

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