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Old 09-06-2003, 03:42 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Originally posted by smooth
debaser, I'm curious as to your defintion of 'genocide.' My peers have always used it as an act of ethnic or racial killing. That is, genocide, as I understand it, is the act of killing a particular group of people based on racist beliefs.
Usually based on national, or racial lines, but I could find no better word to describe the eradication of all people in a particular area. If you find one, let me know and I'll change it.
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Whatever else sixate might be, we ought to conclude that he is not Caucasion, despite the avatar, based on his statement that ctembreull's assumption that he was "100% caucasion" was "100% wrong."
Well, we seem to be spliting hairs here. He is quite obviously not negroid or mogoloid, so I lumped him, arbitrarily (see below), into the catagory of caucasiod (caucasian).
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edit: I'm would also like to point out that your categorization of Middle Easterners as Caucasions doesn't hold traction in either academia (where we argue that race is socially constructed and has no biological foundation) or our culture (where we just recently argued over the merits of 'racial' profiling in regards to paying particular attention to Arabs boarding planes and such--the nation wasn't in a debate ove whether Whites should be scrutinized more closely).
I agree that racial deliniations are irrelevant, however for the purposes of this argument, and with the language being put forth, I found it rather amusing that sixate was accused of wanting to destroy himself. "Racial" profiling, as I noted before, is a misnomer. We ethnicly profile in this country.
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The bottom line is that, while you might argue and believe that there are three main 'races' in society, and you might even produce a book or two to support such an assertion, that doesn't change the social reality that our citizens do not believe or conceive of themselves as the same 'race' as Arab peoples.
I give a tinkers cuss about race, and about the way people falsely think about it. However, if one were to break Homo Sapiens Sapiens into distinct races, the classic three is just as defensible a set as any other, there being identifiable features that clearly deliniate individuals placed in one group from those in another. As much as Americans may hate it, the fact is that a majority of Americans have much more in common, ethnically and racially (and by this I mean expressed traits), with people in the Middle East than they do with people in sub-Saharan Africa or East Asia/Polynesia.
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I didn't want to take this thread this far of course but we could discuss racial categories in philosophy, I suppose. We might wonder what prompted you to include sixate (even assuming his avatar is representative of his skin color) in the same racial category as a person of Arabian descent.
I would love to discuss it, start a thread. See above for the quick answer to your question.

PS - I saw elsewhere (the bald thread perhaps?) that the avatar is an actual picture of the person in question.
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