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Old 09-04-2003, 01:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
sixate
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Specifically, it is hatred directed at a certain ethnic group or groups.
By the correct definition. I'm no racist. I have never said kill every Arab individual on the planet now have I? I said that I think we need to blow up the entire Middle East, and I think we both know that more than just Arabs live there.

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Originally posted by ctembreull
So you advocate wiping out the Middle East - those who are terrorists as well as those who are not? That's not hatred directed at terrorists, that's hatred directed at an ethnic group. To say that they're all either terrorists or will be terrorists is the essence of anti-Arab racism. So you can take your evasions, frankly, and shove them.

So disliking America is terrorist behavior? Are you completely fucking insane? You're advocating genocide on the basis of a broad, sweeping generalization with no real foundation in fact.
Again, I have never stated that I wanted the death of an entire ethnic group. It's not my problem that I speak a language that you don't understand.

Disliking America is not terrorist behavior, but supporting terrorist behavior is! Many people in these countries support it, many do not. We don't have time to figure who is who and I don't care if innocent people are killed. Again, where the fuck did I ever say anything about genocide?! Maybe you're the one who's completely fucking insane because now you are putting words in my mouth.

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"If the danger of the reproduction of that curse of God in the Jewish blood is finally to come to an end, then there is only one way-- the extermination of that people whose father is the devil..." -- Julius Streicher

Eerie similarity, huh
If you want to think so, but I don't.

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"Sure you can. I knew what you were going to post, actually, as soon as you said that. Oh dear, Cruz slipped up and said "nigger." The problem is that he was intending to use the word "negro" in the name of an early 20th-century labor organization. Oops. That's a pretty bad mistake, innit? Yeah, it looked bad at the time, but Cruz did the honorable and forthright thing. He stepped forward and a) apologized, and b) explained what happened. You can read all about that here, at SFGate (link).. I need hardly remind you that the San Francisco Chronicle is by far a more reliable source for news and information than NewsHax. Mother Jones, a site more in line with NewsCrax, has quite a bit about the issue here (link). So, to recap:

Bustamante, who has an excellent record in affirmative action and excellent relations with the African-American community in California, makes a mistake and then spends the next several weeks apologizing for it. And this somehow makes him a racist? If he hadn't apologized - at length and great political expense, I might add - then you might have a point. But he did everything humanly possible to set the issue aright. Far more than you have done, in fact, on the issue of your own racial opinions.
So you have no problem with someone slipping up and saying nigger. Good for you. That's something to be proud of. NOT! That is hardly a word that should even cross someones mind when their "intent" was to say negro... Especially when they are in front of a bunch of black people. Of course he's gonna do his best to try to cover that up. That's what politicians do. Again, if you want to think I'm a racist then you're entitled to that bullshit opinion just as I'm entitled to my opinion that Bustamante is a racist.

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Originally posted by ctembreull
(On edit: long, profanity-laden tirade against sixate removed on reassertion of good judgement. Anyone who wants to know what I was going to say (and it *was* quite witty, if highly offensive, can PM me.)
See, this is the kind of shit that kills me. Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean that I have to get completely ignorant. I don't even need to go that route because I'm not like that. I would love to know what you had to say and you can PM me the part that you took out just so I could laugh cause dudes like you wouldn't talk so fucking big if you were sitting in front of me.

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Bustamante a racist. What the hell next?! It's time for you to face facts and admit that you're dead, flat, fucking wrong.
Well, since I agreed to not say shit about his past all I'll say is because of things that I've read from his past I believe that he's racist, and whether you like it or not I'm entitled to my opinion and nobody has to like or agree with it.

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