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Old 09-04-2003, 10:06 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Darkblack
hehe did you read the link you provided? One, there are no examples of gun use as a means of defending ones self, two it states that most of the surveys done were done by phone. The person was asked if they had used their weapon in a defensive way in the last year. With a phone conversation there was no way to know whether or not the victim who drew their weapon started the fight or was actually a victim at all.
No, the survey deals with that specifically. Reread the document. The questions were specifically worded to remove such false positive that were included in the Kleck report.
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Maybe you do not understand what I am saying. If you are the attacker then yeah, you can choose the distance. I am not talking about using a gun to attack people. I am talking about some guy pushes you into an ally at gunpoint and he wants your fucking wallet. How is your gun going to save you?
It's not. But chances are he isn't going to choose a person with a gun to go after, just in case that person is stupid enough to try to go for his weapon. Petty thieves do not go looking for confrontation, they can tell an armed person from a victim a mile away.
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I can see how your gun can be useful if you hear someone in your back yard and want to scare him or her off. The visual effect of you holding a gun is great. Works well. I am not arguing that.


Now if someone is mugging you, they usually are within arms distance because they want you to hand them stuff, they want to pat you down and see if you got anything they want. So, when they pat you down they get a new gun. This is what I am talking about. Can you comment on this please?
Why would you let someone get that close to you?

Criminals do not pat you down, they take your wallet and run. In the event that they did pat you down, let them have the gun, it's not worth your life.
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