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Originally posted by Darkblack
Probably true, but just maybe someone who could do something stupid like this couldn't pass a tougher test to get a gun. I know I can go into Wal-Mart right now and by a shotgun. All they do is check my criminal history and have me fill out a form. It is very, very easy to get a gun.
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That's the kind of speculation that I love to hear when people want to restrict my civil liberties. It
should be easy for a normal citizen to get a firearm.
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Honestly I was making the statement in general that when stuff like this happens and someone brings up gun control everyone gets up in arms about their right to own guns and so on. In this case now that I have reread it I agree that this probably could not have been prevented other than stricter testing at the initial gun purchase.
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Stricter testing? For what? Should we initiate a stupid-teenager test to see how the individual reacts? You can't test for stupidity in human beings.
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For one I don't find murder to be a tragedy. Two, when else should you make a moral justification for a political cause? I think this is a perfect time to talk about preventing things like this from happening again. I am also sorry you get offended so easily.
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Actually I wasn't all that offended, just annoyed. Poor choice of wording on my part. I'm sure the murder was a tragedy for the friends and family of the deceased, and if I recall correctly it was you who seemed to indicate I should feel remorse for the death of a child. Now that the situation has changed, the rhetoric is gone isn't it?
The fact of the matter is that you are blindly grasping at straws. You see that a gun was involved, and immediately jump down my throat and assume I'm a gun-toting idiot. Face it; gun control is not the solution here.
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This is a blatant attack on my morals and judgment to try and provoke a negative response. I will not give you one. I value all life and feel that most of the gun violence today could be prevented with tighter laws and restrictions.
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You're right, it is a blatant attack. Your morals and judgement are wrong; throwing money into more laws and restrictions will do nothing more than inconvenience people who have done nothing wrong.
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I hate this argument because it is an irrational statement that is like apples and oranges. I can kill you with a ribbon sure but can I do it from 200 yards without you even knowing? You could also try choking me with a ribbon and I bet I could get loose or at least hurt you enough that you would stop choking me. With a gun you can just shoot me dead from a distance. There is a difference.
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If a person wants to kill someone, they're going to kill them with any means available. The fact that a gun is better at it then a ribbon is irrelevant; a weapon is only deadly when used.
Exactly what would you consider to be an ideal level of gun control?