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I'm lost with the physics, but suspect that we are having a modern day version arguement over Plato's distinction between matter and form. Although near all can be mathematically expressed by Wolfram and binary code. That form is not the thing. The information is not the thing and it is next to nothing without a "writer" and a "reader". Being part of the system as we write and read information, we will never be purely objective. And without ourselves the information is useless, it just describes what is.
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