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Old 08-28-2003, 08:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally posted by The_Dude


it's pure judgemental, just like a baseball umpire calls a strike. can you pull up the same arguement for that?

also, look at where the umpire spots the ball in the NFL. it's judgemental and not always on the right spot. what about the fouls committed in nba? also a judgement call and some violations will be missed.
Not the same. The rules of baseball state that umpires call balls and stikes. Nascar just makes random judgement calls, with no rules to fall back on (there is not set procedure - in baseball it is understood (by rule) that the umpire will call balls and stikes, and will use his judgement).

In Nascar there are no rules for things that are NOT judgemental - like cheating.


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It's the lead car that determines whether or not to let another car get back on the lead lap. the leader usually ONLY allows cars that dont pose a challenge or are a member of the same team to pass when racing back to the caution.
Very much correct. But that is where the problem lies. Noone knows if racing back to the line will apply or not. This creates a potentially dangerous situation where some cars slow down and others speed up. But Nascar won't address it, they'd like as many cars as possible on the lead lap, it makes for a better show.

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yes, dale jr has been docked points and his crew chief fined for some minor violations. i dont think nascar has ever grounded a driver for minor violations on the car.
Not just Dale Jr. Almost every week someone is getting docked, and their crew chiefs are being fined. However, the owners normally pick up the fines, and the points aren't very severely cut. This is my biggest arguement - It cannot be a sport if teams as a whole conspire to break the rules, because the punishments are so insignificant, they don't even care. This makes it an exhibition, sports entertainment.
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