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Old 08-26-2003, 08:32 PM   #139 (permalink)
chavos
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I would claim that since Love has no effect on anything, except to cause love, then we can dispense with it. Ultimately it is an erroneous concept. Although we may use Love metaphorically, to try and describe our awesome experience of love, ultimately it remains, nothing more than an idea, with no "actual" existence.
Utimately, that's unknowable...and such a short cut is just that....an assumption made to simplify that may or may not be right.

imagine thus...love in each instance is incomplete, and varient. but all love has the character of bearing some relation to the ideal type, Love. The points of the set "love" tend towards that Love. Whether or not there is a point on our graph that is the point Love, isn't relevant. The data we have suggests that point, and we can talk about it being relevant to our knowledge of the lowercase love, becuase it teaches us out how those points might be distributed etc....

okay...for the last time...the physical existance of a thing called "God" isn't the crux of a valid religious belief. As long as our experiences/data points seem to indicate that there is a point or function that is the ideal type of the positive attirbutes we seek in life, that point is relevant, teaches us about life, and adds to our knowdlege of our experiences. Our experience indicates a mystery and a power, one that does not seem to obey the logic of this world. Now, it may be that that point is indeed vacant, and that we have imagined the whole thing. I will admit, i cannot prove that this cannot be. But our limitations prevent us from simply entering in the applicable "variable" in to the function of life to see if it produces "Error" or "God." Until then...look at the data we do have, and draw your own conclusions. I'll respect your findings, and i'd ask for the same respect in return. Fair?

I apologize for the extensive metaphor...but this is what you get when such ideas rattle in my brain for a few days.

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