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Originally posted by Memnoch
This is going to get me in a hot pan o' flames...
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If you know you are going to hurt peoples feelings or insult someone, maybe you could think twice about posting.
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The band Mudvayne once sang/bellowed, "Let me help you tie the rope around your neck. Let me help to talk you the wrong way off the ledge. Let me help you hold the glock against your head. Let me help you chain the weights onto your legs - get on the plank, fuck."
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I like Mudvayne's music. Don't always care for their message.
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And that's how I feel about this shit. You want to die? Then die. Stop wasting my oxygen. You want to cry for help? Then cry for help verbally, and not in such an incredibly selfish way. It sickens me, these people who decide they're going to risk their own life for attention - and then they carry it on their sleeve like it's some sort of badge of honor. There's nothing honorable or cool or positive in anyway shape or form of having attempted suicide, or cut yourself, or thrown up every time you eat. It's not good, it's not healthy, and it is among the most selfish things a human being can do. There is no thought to others, only about how miserable one's own self is.
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Up to here I could see you point. Suicide is incredibly selfish and thoughtless. The variety of reasons that make people want to choose this path are so extreme that it is impossible to make broad generalizations.
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As Dennis Leary once said, "'I'm just not happy. My life didn't turn out the way I wanted it to.' Yeah, join the fucking club, okay pal?"
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Dennis Leary's life may have been rough in the beginning but he is doing pretty well for himself now.
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90% of the people I've met that have been "diagnosed" (and I use that term looser than a 2 dollar whore) with bipolar or unipolar disease are schmucks who are looking for something other than themselves to blame for the utter uselessness, worthlessness and failure that is their life.
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OK. This is the point where you started to loose it.
I work with people who are bipolar, have clinical depression and many other mental problems.
Some of them have (or had before the problems started) very good lives.
They have chemical imbalances that cause serious and even life threatening conditions.
Your less then scientific and incredibly callus view of mental illness is hardly an accurate summation of the complex and difficult lives these people face.
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And I've met a lot of these people. How did I meet all of them, you ask? Because I used to be that way. I used to pretend myself day in and day out that nobody loved me and nobody cared about me and it was just so god-damned amazing that my life was even as good as it was (and it wasn't) because it was all because of me. I used to be like that. I used to cut myself. I used to entertain what I thought were "serious" thoughts of suicide, thinking "no one will miss me, it won't matter."
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I'm sorry to hear that.
If you need someone to talk to just PM me or drop by chat.
TFP is a place with people who do care and are willing to listen.
That is what community is all about
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I've been to psychiatric wards on three separate occasions. I've met the people with real problems (the 14 year old who shot his own uncle in the head) and the people who don't (the guy who used a paper clip to etch an anarchy symbol on his arm because he thought it looked cool). Let me tell you, there are so many people out there whose only problem is themselves. My message to them: get the fuck over it, get a job, go to school, find someone to love, and LIVE.
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I wish it was that simple.
Working with and having close friends who have serious mental illness has made it clear to me that nothing is easy.
A medication that worked for a couple of years can stop working and you wind up worse then when you started.
An employer can change their medical insurance carrier and all of a sudden the support and care you needed become to expensive.
There are so many roadblocks to people with mental illness that I can't list them all.
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I congratulate successful suicides on making this world a little better with their absence.
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I hope that you are shown compassion and kindness throughout your life.