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docbungle · 08-23-2003, 01:49 PM

CSFilm, you, of course, are asking for PROOF of something that can not be proven. That is an easy thing to do: ask for proof that you know cannot be supplied. Knowing that, why are you asking? To be sarcastic? What?

I can run around and act like a rooster or I can shit on my carpet or I can wear shoes that don't match each other or I can quit my job. I have the freedom of choice to do any of those things. And, yes, it is possible for me to consider the consequences of my actions before I do those things and make a decision based on that. Because I have freedom of thought, also. I had the freedom to smirk at your last post because I thought it was condescending and childish and not very witty but a little arrogant, as if YOU have some sort of hidden proof you are keeping from the rest of us.

That is as close as anyone can come to proving they have the freedom of coice: by actually making a choice. We all do it every day.

Sit around all day and wait for something to make all of your choices for you. *spoiler alert* You will sit all day and nothing will make your choices for you.

By saying the choices we make are not actually our choices at all, but predetermined, is just as unproveable. It is an interesting theory that does not have enough backbone for me to buy into.

*sidenote* Bringing God into a discussion like this is like bringing abortion up at a tupperware party. IF there is a God, how can anyone be pompous enough to believe they can actually comprehend anything he has done or will do? IF He/it exists, that would mean He is our creator, hence, we are probably not quite on the same intellectual level as He is, if you know what I mean, hence have no idea what we are talking about, as He could change anything whenever He wanted to. I am NOT arguing for the exsitence of God, but since people keep bringing it up, those are my thoughts.

08-23-2003, 01:49 PM	#74 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	CSFilm, you, of course, are asking for PROOF of something that can not be proven. That is an easy thing to do: ask for proof that you know cannot be supplied. Knowing that, why are you asking? To be sarcastic? What? I can run around and act like a rooster or I can shit on my carpet or I can wear shoes that don't match each other or I can quit my job. I have the freedom of choice to do any of those things. And, yes, it is possible for me to consider the consequences of my actions before I do those things and make a decision based on that. Because I have freedom of thought, also. I had the freedom to smirk at your last post because I thought it was condescending and childish and not very witty but a little arrogant, as if YOU have some sort of hidden proof you are keeping from the rest of us. That is as close as anyone can come to proving they have the freedom of coice: by actually making a choice. We all do it every day. Sit around all day and wait for something to make all of your choices for you. spoiler alert You will sit all day and nothing will make your choices for you. By saying the choices we make are not actually our choices at all, but predetermined, is just as unproveable. It is an interesting theory that does not have enough backbone for me to buy into. sidenote Bringing God into a discussion like this is like bringing abortion up at a tupperware party. IF there is a God, how can anyone be pompous enough to believe they can actually comprehend anything he has done or will do? IF He/it exists, that would mean He is our creator, hence, we are probably not quite on the same intellectual level as He is, if you know what I mean, hence have no idea what we are talking about, as He could change anything whenever He wanted to. I am NOT arguing for the exsitence of God, but since people keep bringing it up, those are my thoughts. __________________ Bad Luck City Last edited by docbungle; 08-23-2003 at 01:52 PM..