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I'm sorry, but I see little debate.
Debate implies logic and well stated arguements.
For the most part, I am seeing sweeping statements, little reason or logic, and taunts.
For one thing, none of you even state or acknowledge the basics from which you argue.
So please, no one claim the high ground of logic in this thread.
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