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Originally posted by The_Dude
i dont see how 10 commandments had any influence over our legal system
ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me - err......how is this related to our judicial system?
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Look, this highlights the beginning of transitions from greek/roman/norse multigod peaganistic human sacrifice religions. It took a while, but man kind is a better species because of the marginalization, suppresion of these. Maybe it was simply evolving? This concept, in the bible thuming, execute those who violate it way, is offensive. I am not a big fan of evangelizing or prothelytizing, and know how to tell someone to stop. That's MY job, to stop them from offending me. Not the governments. Thus begins the transition to monotheistic beliefs. No big deal, who's to say for sure whether for better or worse? Not me. Your right, they're are no laws about it that i can think of presently. Why does that mean the government needs to tell a judge to remove it?
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TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' - again, relevance? it is legal to create any carved image....
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OOOH...carved image...better get the government to make rulings, commision studies, pander to think tanks, and assess the threat to national security. Laws, laws, laws. Maybe that's one of the problems. We took these 10 pretty simple and all encompassing guidelines and added to them.
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THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.' - oh HELL NO GOD DAMN IT! this is also permitted.
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Like it or not pal, you throw out Hell No God Damn it....and you will offend some people. Do you talk like that in front of your mom? To your children? Will you? It might not be a criminal issue, but it is definately a civil issue.
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FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.' - nope. no relevance to the american judical system. almost all the "blue laws" are gone.
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Your right, most people don't go to church on Sunday. At the same time work weeks are 40 hours long with incentive for additional hours. Work week is usually m-f, saturdays AND sunday's off now. Our legal system has taken this concept and increased it? And don't be fooled. Blue laws are ALL OVER the place.
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FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.' - govt has no law that makes you honor your father and mother!
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Concur
Does this mean you shouldn't? Doubtful.
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SIX: 'You shall not murder.' - finally.........but almost all the religions on earth say somethin against murder.
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Thank goodness this one doesn't leave much to the imagination.
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SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery. - Hhehe! we all know about this one.
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WHAT do we all know about this one? I'll tell you what I know. You commit adultery and you are a cheater. YOU HAVE CHEATED AND LIED TO SOMEONE. I have to revert back to the civil vs. criminal portions of justice. Not all states have gone to no fault divorces. ~this is the government invalidating your contract with another person, and applying it's own judgement, btw~ In most states adulters have violated the marriage contract and are punished for it.
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EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.' - same as murder. this is also something in common with most of the world religions.
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I think this one needs no comment.
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NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.' - i cant quite interpret that one well. if that means you shall not lie then it's completely irrelevent as people lie everyday and you usally dont get prosecuted for lying (perjury is different)
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Aside from the obvious criminal judicial application of this concept, "People lie eveyday" is a weak arguement for insisting the government force removal of this list from a state supreme court. It's even a weak arguement to make concerning how this commandment is ~NOT~ applicable to today's judicial climate.
In fact dude, people are prosecuted frequently for lying. It is a fact that the federal government has enacted laws which expempt it from lying to you, yet forbids, and punishes severly being lied to. It is a felony to lie to an FBI agent conducting an investigation. Many are also even persecuted, outside the confines of the law. For example, Martha Stewart, stock valuation, or Saddam Hussiem, WMD?
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TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.' - err.....i can covet whatever i want.......as a matter of fact, i'm coveting jennifer aniston right now! 
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School in summer dude...school in summer.
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as you can see, the 10 commandments have very very very minutely little relevance to our justice system.
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Even in your closely manufactured interpretations of the commandments I think they have significant relevance to just about every human experience, and are the single biggest contribution to jurisprudence as we know it.
Taken as concepts and understanding that this original list of ten guidelines has shaped the world as it exists today is compelling.
I wonder if the golden rule (do unto others...) is a product of the ten commandments or vice-versa? Any one know?
Does anyone know the seven deadly sins? They are quite religious in orgin, and quite fascinating in nature. Do you have a problem with them? Why.
I don't want to go all faithful and shit on anyone, because I'm far from it. I do know that religion is a big part of everyone's experience. Religious, Non-religious, and athiests all have to deal with religion all the time. Regarldess, when talking about guidelines for human existance, WE CANNOT restrict it because of it's orgins. Religious or Secular?
That's what they're doing. THEY, the government, is restricting it. They are telling US we can't do it. Can't put that brilliant list there. That's not, I think, what they (the founders) envisioned.
-bear