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telekinetic2 · 08-18-2003, 08:30 PM

Pasted from ClubSI, by a car theif:

You see all you dumbass honda drivers just dont understand basics. If I set your alarm off, i can turn it off in less than 20 seconds.
Break window, pull hood release, turn battery off.
But I can do it without pulling the hood release, too. I can rip off your fender liner, and the cable is sitting right there. And i believe it can be done directly at the hood latch at the car. Opening the hood carefully does not set off the alarm, UNLESS you have a sensor there. Either way, I'll have the battery off in less than a few seconds..
UNLESS you have a backup battery.

I can get into your car, damn easily. I can take a flat head screwdriver to the side of the window where that tab, that keeps it in place is. This doesnt set off the alarm. I can than reach in, and unlock the car door. Than I'm in.
Sometimes you can block off the auto-lock with the civic DX piece, I can rip this off or do it with ONE screwdriver. Unless you remove the entire power-door lock system.

I can pick your door lock, or smash it in, pull it off and than get in the car.
The only way you can stop me from doing this, is removing power door locks, and shaving off the actual lock. I think civic 4dr, (rear door) pieces are exact replacements.

Ok so i cant get into your car through a door. It's ok. Push the window down, and pull the trunk release cable. If you locked it, HAH, what a joke. Rip out that panel, and pull the cable. I can push your rear seats down, and I'm in the car.

You can only prevent this by removing trunk release cable, getting an electric one controlled by remote. And if you shave the actual door lock.

If you stupid bastards have gone to such great lengths to prevent me from jacking your POS civic, I can break the window, and clear away all the glass, hop in. I dont like doing this though, it's loud, attracts attention, and will fuck me up when i slide in.
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OK, I'm in the car. The alarm is going off. What's the No.1 worst thing? the alarm horn is in the engine bay. I can disconnect it (pull really hard, rips off) or just deal with it.
It's DEAFENING if you put a 2nd horn in the actual interior of the car itself. I wont even spend the 2 minutes jacking your radio and speakers, i dont want to go deaf.

If you have "the club" on your steering wheel, i can saw your wheel to get it off in 15 seconds. Or freeze the lock itself and break it. There are rare setups that have huge metal covers over the wheel, and THAN you put the club over this. Those must be a pain in the ass.

Autolock: A good deturrent, i have seen stolen cars with them STILL on the car, but a good thief can rip those puppies off.

OK, now if you have your basic alarm stuff, it takes time but i can go around it. Ignition and fuel kill switches are a total bitch, but i can rip off your panels and carpet, and get to the root of it, it just causes more delay.

Bolts: If i am here just to steal seats, there are websites that sell tool-specific bolts, so it makes it damn near impossible to get the bolt off without the right tool.

Some secuirty systems have a good range that alert the car owner i am stealing your shit. On a stock car you have less than 2 minutes before it's gone. With all the stuff listed above, it'll take at least 10minutes to figure out whats going on and have your car in my hands.

Lo-Jack. Fuck Lo Jack! If you are asleep, (i will be jacking your car around 2-4am in the morning, by the way)
I only need 2-3 hours to strip what I want. It will take an hour for the cops to locate me. So I do what i need to do in about 3 hours.

If you know your car has been stolen in the last hour, and have lo-jack, you will PROBABLY get it back. I'll rought it up a bit, you'll need some new panels and i'll have redlined the shit out of it just because it was FUN!

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If a thief cannot steal your car, and has risked his neck, and his time into stealing it, we will probably be really, really pissed off. Fuck you for making your car safe. SO VERY often, the body panels get kicked in, and/or keyed.

Towing: More rare, but ask the average Integra-Type-R guy, they fear this more than anything. Only if you are tightly parallel parked, can you avoid this. It depends if there is something in front or behind you, because it is where they would tow you from, but turn your wheels all the way, depending on your situation.
And it's not always some shady tow-truck driver. A shitty truck can easily be modifed to tow cars quickly.

If your car is often parked, reliably the same place, house, work, etc.....they can research it, and now what to do. From the outside they can see what exactly to steal, how to get it, how long they have, how often you check your car. If they set off the alarm and you come out, they will know your reaction time. I check on my car at least every hour while i'm at work or school.
[/thief]

So yeah guys. You can virtually make your car unstealable, unless they tow it, or have an hour or so of time on their hands.
SHIT loads of engine stuff can be done to stop them. Unplug your injectors, but have them sit there as if they are in. If you have an MSD cap and coil, remove the plug connection the two, so there is no ignition coil. Or unplug your ECU. Havent you seen guys walking around the mall, late at night with an ECU in their hands ?

Dont bling. Wheels, or any expensive mods that can be easily stolen and sold on ebay or honda-tech or clubsi's "For Sale" forums are a big treat.

Racers: A car that looks fast, a turbo, a nice engine (so our stock B16A2 make it high profile already) any go-fast components, thieves love, because often a thief has a honda of his own. He worked for a few weeks of his miserable existance and bought a crx, or an old EG. And he wants to street race dat shit yo! So he's going to steal stuff from his car to make it fast.

08-18-2003, 08:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
telekinetic2 Loser	Pasted from ClubSI, by a car theif: You see all you dumbass honda drivers just dont understand basics. If I set your alarm off, i can turn it off in less than 20 seconds. Break window, pull hood release, turn battery off. But I can do it without pulling the hood release, too. I can rip off your fender liner, and the cable is sitting right there. And i believe it can be done directly at the hood latch at the car. Opening the hood carefully does not set off the alarm, UNLESS you have a sensor there. Either way, I'll have the battery off in less than a few seconds.. UNLESS you have a backup battery. I can get into your car, damn easily. I can take a flat head screwdriver to the side of the window where that tab, that keeps it in place is. This doesnt set off the alarm. I can than reach in, and unlock the car door. Than I'm in. Sometimes you can block off the auto-lock with the civic DX piece, I can rip this off or do it with ONE screwdriver. Unless you remove the entire power-door lock system. I can pick your door lock, or smash it in, pull it off and than get in the car. The only way you can stop me from doing this, is removing power door locks, and shaving off the actual lock. I think civic 4dr, (rear door) pieces are exact replacements. Ok so i cant get into your car through a door. It's ok. Push the window down, and pull the trunk release cable. If you locked it, HAH, what a joke. Rip out that panel, and pull the cable. I can push your rear seats down, and I'm in the car. You can only prevent this by removing trunk release cable, getting an electric one controlled by remote. And if you shave the actual door lock. If you stupid bastards have gone to such great lengths to prevent me from jacking your POS civic, I can break the window, and clear away all the glass, hop in. I dont like doing this though, it's loud, attracts attention, and will fuck me up when i slide in. -------------------------- OK, I'm in the car. The alarm is going off. What's the No.1 worst thing? the alarm horn is in the engine bay. I can disconnect it (pull really hard, rips off) or just deal with it. It's DEAFENING if you put a 2nd horn in the actual interior of the car itself. I wont even spend the 2 minutes jacking your radio and speakers, i dont want to go deaf. If you have "the club" on your steering wheel, i can saw your wheel to get it off in 15 seconds. Or freeze the lock itself and break it. There are rare setups that have huge metal covers over the wheel, and THAN you put the club over this. Those must be a pain in the ass. Autolock: A good deturrent, i have seen stolen cars with them STILL on the car, but a good thief can rip those puppies off. OK, now if you have your basic alarm stuff, it takes time but i can go around it. Ignition and fuel kill switches are a total bitch, but i can rip off your panels and carpet, and get to the root of it, it just causes more delay. Bolts: If i am here just to steal seats, there are websites that sell tool-specific bolts, so it makes it damn near impossible to get the bolt off without the right tool. Some secuirty systems have a good range that alert the car owner i am stealing your shit. On a stock car you have less than 2 minutes before it's gone. With all the stuff listed above, it'll take at least 10minutes to figure out whats going on and have your car in my hands. Lo-Jack. Fuck Lo Jack! If you are asleep, (i will be jacking your car around 2-4am in the morning, by the way) I only need 2-3 hours to strip what I want. It will take an hour for the cops to locate me. So I do what i need to do in about 3 hours. If you know your car has been stolen in the last hour, and have lo-jack, you will PROBABLY get it back. I'll rought it up a bit, you'll need some new panels and i'll have redlined the shit out of it just because it was FUN! --- If a thief cannot steal your car, and has risked his neck, and his time into stealing it, we will probably be really, really pissed off. Fuck you for making your car safe. SO VERY often, the body panels get kicked in, and/or keyed. Towing: More rare, but ask the average Integra-Type-R guy, they fear this more than anything. Only if you are tightly parallel parked, can you avoid this. It depends if there is something in front or behind you, because it is where they would tow you from, but turn your wheels all the way, depending on your situation. And it's not always some shady tow-truck driver. A shitty truck can easily be modifed to tow cars quickly. If your car is often parked, reliably the same place, house, work, etc.....they can research it, and now what to do. From the outside they can see what exactly to steal, how to get it, how long they have, how often you check your car. If they set off the alarm and you come out, they will know your reaction time. I check on my car at least every hour while i'm at work or school. [/thief] So yeah guys. You can virtually make your car unstealable, unless they tow it, or have an hour or so of time on their hands. SHIT loads of engine stuff can be done to stop them. Unplug your injectors, but have them sit there as if they are in. If you have an MSD cap and coil, remove the plug connection the two, so there is no ignition coil. Or unplug your ECU. Havent you seen guys walking around the mall, late at night with an ECU in their hands ? Dont bling. Wheels, or any expensive mods that can be easily stolen and sold on ebay or honda-tech or clubsi's "For Sale" forums are a big treat. Racers: A car that looks fast, a turbo, a nice engine (so our stock B16A2 make it high profile already) any go-fast components, thieves love, because often a thief has a honda of his own. He worked for a few weeks of his miserable existance and bought a crx, or an old EG. And he wants to street race dat shit yo! So he's going to steal stuff from his car to make it fast.