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archer2371 · 08-15-2003, 07:33 AM

The original phrase of Separation of Church and State came back when Thomas Jefferson was the President. Some Baptists were being persecuted against (in Virginia I believe) and either the local or state government was oppressing them. Now these Baptists wrote to Thomas Jefferson asking to be helped out. Now TJ wrote back a letter saying to the extent that he was for the separation of church and state, but, so as to protect the Church from being harmed by the State. See, the Founding Fathers didn't create the First Amendment to keep Christians, or Jews, or those of other religions from being active participators in politics and law. They did it to stop the creation of a National Church, like England had, because they were for other people practicing their own religions without having to do it secretly while out in the open paying omage to the National Church and it's Government, because that is oppression. Most of you probably know that I am a Christian. I do feel the need to spread my faith, and sometimes I get very passionate about what I speak about and go too far, then I have to calm myself down and think, and use what I deeply and truly know to help my case. Now I have no problem with the Ten Commandments, Nine of them helped to form our country's legal basis, (Thou shalt have no other God before Me, was left out, understandbly, due to our acceptance of people who didn't worship the way that Christians or Jews do.) Perhaps that is what people take offense to, is that particular Commandment. Yet the Judge is still correct in stating that the Judeo-Christian Ethics were the foundation of the legal and political system in America (their ethics, not their respective churches and synagogues). Personally I don't think he's trying to establish a national church, he is merely putting up something that he believes. That the legal system was based upon moral teachings from the Judeo-Christian Ethics. And he's right.

08-15-2003, 07:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	The original phrase of Separation of Church and State came back when Thomas Jefferson was the President. Some Baptists were being persecuted against (in Virginia I believe) and either the local or state government was oppressing them. Now these Baptists wrote to Thomas Jefferson asking to be helped out. Now TJ wrote back a letter saying to the extent that he was for the separation of church and state, but, so as to protect the Church from being harmed by the State. See, the Founding Fathers didn't create the First Amendment to keep Christians, or Jews, or those of other religions from being active participators in politics and law. They did it to stop the creation of a National Church, like England had, because they were for other people practicing their own religions without having to do it secretly while out in the open paying omage to the National Church and it's Government, because that is oppression. Most of you probably know that I am a Christian. I do feel the need to spread my faith, and sometimes I get very passionate about what I speak about and go too far, then I have to calm myself down and think, and use what I deeply and truly know to help my case. Now I have no problem with the Ten Commandments, Nine of them helped to form our country's legal basis, (Thou shalt have no other God before Me, was left out, understandbly, due to our acceptance of people who didn't worship the way that Christians or Jews do.) Perhaps that is what people take offense to, is that particular Commandment. Yet the Judge is still correct in stating that the Judeo-Christian Ethics were the foundation of the legal and political system in America (their ethics, not their respective churches and synagogues). Personally I don't think he's trying to establish a national church, he is merely putting up something that he believes. That the legal system was based upon moral teachings from the Judeo-Christian Ethics. And he's right. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."