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Originally posted by MacGnG
just because one doesn't believe in God doesn't mean they cant blame everything on a "higher being" or anyone else for that matter
either way that was just an outlandish statement that was made in my presence; i was using it to get a point across.
when people say "we have no free will" to me thats what it is saying.... "i have no free will so i can BLAME everything on someone else"... meaning they do not want to take responsibility for their own actions because "how can they be MY OWN actions if everything was predetermined."
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I don't wish to pass up the consequences of my actions onto a "higher being", God or other wise.
I also explained that I did not believe that actions are deterministic.
I believe that good deeds should be rewarded, and bad deeds punished, in the same way that a defective engine part gets removed. It may not have been that engine part's "choice" to go wrong, but that doesn't mean that action shouldn't be taken against it.
The carrot and the stick still applies whether you have free will or not.
As for my "outlandish" statement, I was merely responding to your answer:
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Originally posted by MacGnG
what is your opinion on this statement:
"You don't accept that you have free will so you can blame whatever happends on someone else."
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Originally posted by CSflim
that doesn't really make sense, if free will doesn't exist, then who am I to blame "it" on? Whoever it is also doen't have free will.
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Originally posted by MacGnG
God?... "I have no free will so i can blame everything bad that happends on God, because he made me do it so its not my fault"
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Originally posted by CSflim
I don't believe in God.
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