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Old 08-08-2003, 11:37 AM   #38 (permalink)
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It's interesting you mention Frank "Home Run" Baker. Do you know his career home run total? 96. He led the AL in homers from 1911 to 1914 with 11, 10, 12, and 9. Hall of Famer, though. Do you think nowadays someone who plays for 13 years and hits 96 Homers is a HOF'er? Fat chance.
I bet they could play 19 years and hit 28. Ozzie Smith.

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We've seen that Bonds can out steal Babe every day of the week. He can also hit one more double, if he gets a few more at bats. But in EVERY OTHER MAJOR OFFENSIVE CATEGORY, Babe comes out on top. Bonds' 73 HR season was an abberation. His next highest year is a very human 49. Babe tied or beat that 4 times. But you're probably getting tired of me saying things like that. Even with the inflated year, Ruth's career average season is much better than Bonds'.
Comparing their career stats is obviously useless, because Bonds has changed so much since he was with the Pirates. As for the career high stats.

Ruth -- Bonds
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ABs 540 -- 580 So 40 more at-bats, which divided by 5 is about 8 games. Not that much. Disregarded.
Runs 177 -- 129 It sure would help Bonds if he had the kind of support the Babe did to knock him in. Disregarded.
Hits 205 -- 181 Helped because Babe hit 50 points above his career average.
2B's 44 -- 45 Too close to factor.
3B's 16 -- 9 Too close to factor.
HR 60 -- 73 Barry won't do it again? Well, that's right, because he doesn't get pitched too enough, one of those things that they just didn't do back then. So if they actually PITCHED to Barry, just imagine all the things he could do.
RBI 171 -- 137 Again, if Bonds had the kind of surrounding line-up the Babe had and vice versa this stat would be reversed. Thus, this stat is disregarded.
SB's 17 -- 52 He probably can't hit triples because outfielders have decent arms now, which also explains why guys like Cecil Fielder didn't get triples.
BB 170 -- 198 Again, guys won't pitch to him. If guys actually pitched to him, Bonds could do much more damage. Disregarded.
SO 93 -- 102 Close. It would be smarter to compare their averages here. 86 -- 88. Close. Disregarded.
AVG .393 -- .370 Ruth. Again, Barry set this when he had 198 BB's. So pitchers weren't pitching to him. Disregarded.
OB% .545 -- .582 Of course they won't pitch to him. They don't want to lose. Disregarded.
SLG .847 -- .863 And Ruth hit 54 the year he had .847. HR's increase SLG, so whoever has more will win this, and guess who has more. The better player, Barry Bonds.
TB 457 -- 411 Pretty close. But Babe had 64 MORE AB's to set this one with. Leaving it too close to call, disregarded.
HBP 6 -- 9 Close, disregarded.

Stats not disregarded: Hits, HR, SB, SLG

Which leaves Ruth 1 Barry 3

End result. Stats lie. They're just manipulated to whatever the writer wants them to be.

Awards on the other hand can't be manipulated.

MVP's 1 -- 5 Bonds by a very very large margin
Times in top 10 in MVP Voting 2 -- 6 Again, Bonds by a very large margin. Babe's two times he was in the top 10 he was 5 and 6. Barry had two 2's, one 4, two 5's, and an 8.

The Gold Glove was created in 1956, so Babe has none, but for the hell of it, Barry has 8.
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