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Sion · 08-06-2003, 05:11 PM

amge, I tried to google your trouble code 999, but was unable to find anything specific to your Honda. the only thing I found was a generic code that referred to shift solenoids, which has nothing to do with your problem.

but, from what I know of OBD II (on board diagnostics II - 96 and newer vehicles) and what the dealers told you, Id have to ask this question:

are you sure you said that right? they told you "reading a fail error" and not something like "failure to read error"?

I ask this because OBD II is a much more specific system than the original OBD system was. in most cases, a trouble code will target a specific vehicle system. (for example, say that code 124 means that your O2 sensor is giving out of range readings, the code message is usually something along the lines of "Oxygen sensor circuit out of range".)

also, I would not have left the dealership until I was satisfied with the answer they gave me. I would have kept on asking questions until I understood them. Make them keep explaining it until either you understand it or they just flat out admit that they dont know. THEN move on.

finally, if the vehicle is under warranty, insist that they find the problem. if the CEL is coming on, that means a problem exists, either with the car or with the diagnostic system itself. either way, they are obligated to figure out the problem and if it is covered by the warranty, fix it.

now, on to the problem itself. some questions that could help diagnose it.

how low on gas do you have to be before the light comes on?
does it stay on continually or just flash at you occasionally?
does the vehicle have one of those "Low fuel" warning lights (or audio tone) that comes on when the gas level gets too low? does it still come on? does it come on at the same time as the CEL?
has there been any change in the vehicle's performance? sluggishness, hard starting, etc?

my wild ass guess, based on the limited info I have, would be that the low fuel sensor has failed, thus turning on the CEL.

08-06-2003, 05:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	amge, I tried to google your trouble code 999, but was unable to find anything specific to your Honda. the only thing I found was a generic code that referred to shift solenoids, which has nothing to do with your problem. but, from what I know of OBD II (on board diagnostics II - 96 and newer vehicles) and what the dealers told you, Id have to ask this question: are you sure you said that right? they told you "reading a fail error" and not something like "failure to read error"? I ask this because OBD II is a much more specific system than the original OBD system was. in most cases, a trouble code will target a specific vehicle system. (for example, say that code 124 means that your O2 sensor is giving out of range readings, the code message is usually something along the lines of "Oxygen sensor circuit out of range".) also, I would not have left the dealership until I was satisfied with the answer they gave me. I would have kept on asking questions until I understood them. Make them keep explaining it until either you understand it or they just flat out admit that they dont know. THEN move on. finally, if the vehicle is under warranty, insist that they find the problem. if the CEL is coming on, that means a problem exists, either with the car or with the diagnostic system itself. either way, they are obligated to figure out the problem and if it is covered by the warranty, fix it. now, on to the problem itself. some questions that could help diagnose it. how low on gas do you have to be before the light comes on? does it stay on continually or just flash at you occasionally? does the vehicle have one of those "Low fuel" warning lights (or audio tone) that comes on when the gas level gets too low? does it still come on? does it come on at the same time as the CEL? has there been any change in the vehicle's performance? sluggishness, hard starting, etc? my wild ass guess, based on the limited info I have, would be that the low fuel sensor has failed, thus turning on the CEL. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...