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Old 08-01-2003, 02:41 PM   #69 (permalink)
Menoman
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Location: Boon towns of Ohio
"Personally, I would go the adoption route. There are thousands upon thousands of families looking for children to adopt. Besides, I think your conscience will be clearer." ~Sailor420

I'd like to point you to this if you didnt read it.
"Based on data from the AFCARS Report, as of October 2000, there are about 568,000 children in foster care of which an estimated 118,000 are awaiting an adoptive placement. States need your help."

I don't think my conscious would be very clear if I knowingly gave my child to a foster care center until he's 18 with no real sense of family. Not to say that there are no caring foster parents, but would it sit well if you didnt know what foster home your child ends up in?

It's also annoying for people to keep saying "be responsible you had sex now raise the kid" Thats ludicrious and vapid, honestly, its nobody's place on this board to determine what responsibility is. I would respect someone more as a mature adult who made the decision, "I cannot have a child right now b/c I cannot provide him with the kind of life that he rightfully deserves" than someone who thinks responsibility is "Welp now I'm stuck with a kid but I gotta do it b/c thats what people shove down my throat as responsibility."

Forks, I couldnt give 2 shits about how a kid would affect the opportunity of some 2 odd people who decided they wanted to have sex. I do however care about how the parents are going to treat a child. If they are going to abuse physically or mentally the thing, then I'd say its best to not have it.

By the way, the way you said the Pill/shot (Birth control) is abortion. That is a ridiculous statement. I'm not sure you understand what the pill does. I'll give you a quote from one of the main suppliers of a Oral Contraceptive so you see what I mean.

"Oral contraceptives employ synthetic hormones that mimic the properties of natural estrogens and/or progesterone to "fool" the female reproductive system. They provide constant levels of an estrogen and/or progestin in the blood, thus suppressing the release of both FSH and LH. Suppression of FSH inhibits maturation of an egg in an ovary. Suppression of LH inhibits release of an egg from the ovary. In addition to the inhibition of ovulation, the constant level of an estrogen and progestin in the body cause insufficient thickening of the endometrium, which prevents attachment of the egg. Progestins also promotes production of thick, opaque mucus, which acts as a barrier to sperm, as sperm can only pass through clear, thin mucus. Progestin is also thought to produce changes in the fallopian tubes that impede movement of the egg toward the uterus. Estrogen and progestin may also alter the pattern of muscle contractions in the tubes and uterus. This effect may interfere with implantation. In case ovulation does occur, which is rare but can happen, these additional effects also help to prevent pregnancies."

The point being, OC (oral contraceptive) completely stops egg and sperm from touching each other in the least, which means no conception, which means you couldnt possibly abort something not there.

"but the point i was ripping the anti-abortion guy up with was that he SUPPORTED birth control pills. birth control is abortion, only at a very early stage of development. if you support birth control pills, you support abortion. that point made me realize that life really does begin at conception." ~Forks

So that made you anti-abortion yourself.... yet its not true in the least. Should you re-think others opinions of abortion now and not base them on false facts?




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