Argh. Usually, I don't do the whole point-by-point thing, but I dislike being called an evangelist, so here goes.
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Originally posted by Moonduck
Ah, an Atheist Evangelist responds. You will note, if you choose to reread, that I said it was the delivery that mattered, and that I am not a capable enough writer to relay that point. As to fuzzy thinking, it's religion. It's fuzzy. And?
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Actually, I did note that you mentioned the delivery. However, that doesn't mean you should take it as being a more unassailable position.
As for the fuzzy thing, well if you choose to give someone an out in a conversation by saying "hey, it's fuzzy, so what", that's your thing. However, if someone is talking to me about why I should believe something I don't they better have a damn sight better argument than that.
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As to the universe scaring me, it should. We're insignificant bugs. There's a lot of scary stuff out there. We should be afraid. ...
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Yeah, I think that's what I said.
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The only thing that is obvious here is that you did not take the time to comprehend what I posted. If you had, you would not assume that I'd been swayed, nor make the accussation that I was waiting to be swayed. You would also have noted that I mentioned the delivery, not the words, as what gave the statement its' profundity.
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Actually, you'll note that nowhere did I imply that you believed one thing or another. I was just interested in you being so affected by such a minor argument. And please don't get pedantic about what I did or did not comprehend. It's an argument ad hominem and rather insulting.
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I believe in nothing simply because I want it to be so. It is not in me to simply accept that which I cannot prove, or cannot accept proof of. It is not in me because I don't feel it deep down, as that fellow I referenced said. Fuzzy thinking? Whatever. Crusade all you want. I am no atheist simply because I will allow myself to associate with a belief system that identifies itself solely in the negative.
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Well, okay. First of all, I have never
crusaded for anything in my life. I've argued for and against things. I've tried to effect changes in my city, my state, and my country. I've drunkenly screamed about how much I like certain bands or movies. But crusaded? I think you're mistaking me for somebody else.
Whether you're an atheist or not makes not one iota of difference to me. It's your life. However, I do rather take issue with you calling atheism a 'bellief system' since there's no church of atheism, central tenets of atheism or heretic atheists.
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Athiests waste entirely too much energy and time simply being negative towards other people whose beliefs offend them. If God and religion are such farces, why do you care? If people that you cannot like, will never enjoy the company of, decide to delude themselves as to the nature of reality, what business is it of yours? Give a reason why you crusade against religion. What principle drives you?
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I've never wasted any time being "negative." Your assumption that I don't like people who believe differently than I do is kind of amazing. I think you're projecting other people you know onto me. Many, many of my friends have different beliefs than me. I strongly support their right to do so. I love them in spite of, and sometimes because of, our disagreements.
People who believe in god do not "offend" me. As for what business it is of mine, none really. But if you'll note the begining of this thread, this question was adressed to atheists. So, if you get an atheist, in this case me, responding to something you posted, don't assume I'm hunting down people who believe differently than me to single out for ridicule. I'm just arguing ideas in the open marketplace. Don't take it so personally.