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will always be an Alyson Hanniganite
Location: In the dust of the archives
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Yeah .. I am a christian..
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I did not mean to question whether you were christian or not...I was merely questioning whether or not you follow the bible 100%. Sorry that I wasn't more clear on that point.
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we left england due to religious strife.. we wanted to live under our belief in god with out a iron chain around us..
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Actually, <b>my</b> ancestors fled Switzerland, and then Germany, for political reasons. (I come from a long line of "button pushers") They had nothing at all to do with England, and spoke no English until the third generation in this country. This was about 1721.
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and old nun but a nun nonetheless
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I know that you didn't intend it to be so...but this is just funny, funny stuff. Ignore me, I have an odd sense of humor.
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This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.
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Excuse me here, but we most certainly <b>are</b> a multi-cultural community. The best of us are descended from those thrown out of every decent country on the planet. If that's not multicultural, then what is?
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As Americans, we have our own culture,No, we don't our own society, Well, this part's true. I'll accept that.our own language, What language would that be? English? Oh, I see...and our own lifestyle. Isn't "Lifestyle what started all this in the first place?This culture, called the "American Way" has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
Our forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker Hill, Antietam, San Juan, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam. We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn our language!
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O.K. My "forefathers" fought and bled for a lot of different things, but one of them was not so that you can demand that we all speak the same language.
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"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some off the wall, Christian, Right Wing, political slogan - it is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because and this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our highest level of Government, then it is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.
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Show me reference to this "motto" prior to 1950. Nnd where does "Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation..."come from? If it is so well documented, then show me.
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God is in our pledge, yeah, again, as of the 1950'sour National Anthem, Yeah, there's a reference to your "motto" in the fouth stanza, I believe. nearly every patriotic song, and in our founding documents. Again...where? We honor His birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to Him in prayer in times of crisis. No...you, and some others, do. "We" implies all. Do not make that assumption. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, God doesn't offendme...fundamentalist christians do.because God is part of our culture and we are proud to have Him. There's that "our" and "we" again. Do not presume to speak for <b>all</b> of us..[/B]
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We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably defended our freedoms. We celebrate Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades, picnics, and barbecues where we proudly wave our flag.
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Agreed. But, what does this have to do with christianity?
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As an American, I have the right to wave my flag, sing my national anthem, quote my national motto, and cite my pledge whenever and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
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You are confusing patriotism with christianity here. They are <b>not</b> inclusive.
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The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, Yes we do. We always strive to make changes. Why else do you think that there are so many ammendments to the Constitution? and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. Like it or not, this is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.
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In America, you take your right to complain for granted. The more patriotism that is removed from where our children are taught, the less our children will learn about what it is to be an American and our nation's spirit will slowly be killed. Keep patriotism alive!
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I emphatically agree!! What does this have to do with christianity again? I love my country. Never, ever question that.
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“We think it is incumbent upon this people to humble themselves before God on account of their sins...[and] also to implore the Devine Blessing upon us, that by the assistance of His grace, we may be enabled to reform whatever is amiss among us, that so God may be pleased to continue to us the blessings we enjoy.”
-- John Hancock, (the first) signer of the Declaration of Independence
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"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."
--Thomas Jefferson,author of The Declaration of Independence, Dec. 6, 1813.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
--Thomas Jefferson, author of The Declaration of Independence,
February 10, 1814
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
--Thomas Jefferson, author of The Declaration of Independence, March 17, 1814
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Last edited by Bill O'Rights; 07-31-2003 at 11:45 AM..
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