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Originally posted by Drider_it
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Oh, blah blah blah.
You go 100% by the bible, eh? Check out this thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=19523
I'm sick to death of this debate. Why are we even discussing this? If you object to homosexuality on religious grounds, too bad. This is NOT a Christian country, it's a secular republic with a lot of Christians in it. And a lot of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Wiccans, atheists and Jedis. (No wait, that's Australia) If you want a theocracy, move to Iran. If you're afraid of homosexuals or think it's "unnatural", too bad. Last I checked being afraid of someone is not grounds for revoking their rights, and "unnatural" is a loaded term that's subject to interpretation. And I fail to see what the history of the country has to do with its current civil laws. We have, in the past, practiced slavery and child labor, denied women and blacks the right to vote and to inherit/own property, etc. Times change. Morals change. Laws should change accordingly. Deal with it. Most of the founding fathers were deists anyhow, except for the few out-and-out Christians you trot out to bolster your weak arguments.
Marriage is a religious insitution. If you want to get married, talk to your clergy.
It also happens to be a civil institution with legal rights and obligations. I think conflating "marriage" with "civil union" as the U.S. currently does is at the root of a lot of this. I think we ought to dissociate marriage, the religious institution, from marriage, the civil institution by calling them two different things. Civil union, commitment, whatever. Give everyone who wants to be in a civil union, gay, straight, whatever, the same rights. If you want a religious ceremony for your own beliefs, then talk to your clergy.
What fricking century are we living in, anyhow. Sheesh.
