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Old 07-30-2003, 03:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
CSflim
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Originally posted by firefly
actually, after a short google search, it's because what you wrote isn't the ontological argument... and what you wrote is obviously wrong

here's the real one (at least according to http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/o/ont-arg.htm ):

1. It is a conceptual truth (or, so to speak, true by definition) that God is a being than which none greater can be imagined (i.e., the greatest possible being that can be imagined).

2. God exists as an idea in the mind.

3. A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is, other things being equal, greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.

4. Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God (i.e., a greatest possible being that does exist).

5. But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God (for it is a contradiction to suppose that we can imagine a being greater than the greatest possible being that can be imagined.)

6. Therefore, God exists.
Well, now that appears to be an argument! at leats it sort of makes sense on some level! Not that I agree with it mind, but at least it puts forward something which has the appearance of being logically sound.

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