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Old 07-29-2003, 09:09 PM   #105 (permalink)
ctembreull
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Originally posted by debaser
Well, yes, you are. If you want to define ammunition as "military grade", the reader assumes you know what "military grade" ammunition is. Or were you just dressing up your post a bit?
A question to answer your own: Are teflon rounds, caseless rounds, and tracer rounds military-grade ammunition? If so, then why on earth should they become available under any circumstances to anyone outside the military?

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Well, if you define your stances in life by the quotes of murderers that up to you I guess.
Yep, Hinckley was a murderer. How, exactly, does that invalidate what he said?

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...There is no arms race. The deterent is being shot, not being shot with a bigger gun than you happen to be holding at the time.
Hmm. Criminals get guns. People get guns to protect themselves. More criminals get more powerful guns because people are getting guns. More people get more powerful guns because more criminals get more powerful guns. That's an arms race. It's on a slightly smaller scale than the origin of the term, but it scales well enough. The Cold War didn't erupt into a nuclear exchange in large part because of the idea of mutually assured destruction. The human mind tends to recoil from the idea of depopulating the globe. Statistics indicate it's not nearly such a stretch to depopulate a small section of the street. So if everyone gets guns because everyone else is, even if just for protection, it's only gonna take one good bar brawl to touch off a moderate-scale battle. At this rate, the metaphysical difference between Oakland and Beirut will be negligible sooner, rather than later.

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If handled improperly. I handle mine properly. Now what is your beef?
Because as safe as you claim to be, for every person as safe as you, there's at least one more, probably more, who is not. Time to enforce safety, much in the fashion we do with automotive vehicles. Tests, licensing, and insurance would be an acceptable start.

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Well, then I suggest you read the piece of legislation in question and find the wiggle room. It is very specific. Black and white, some would say.
The only people I can think of who would say that gun legislation is black and white are those who are either naive, hermits living in cages, and hopeless idealists. Tax laws are supposed to be in "black and white", too, you know.

I'm so happy for you that you like your guns so much. You'll hopefully pardon those of us who do *not* subscribe to Mao Tse-tung's philosophy that "power grows from the barrel of a gun." I think I'd rather spend my time and energy making life safer without having to resort to packing heat.
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