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Old 07-29-2003, 12:38 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Originally posted by ctembreull
Hmm. I think not. Since I operate in no legal or law enforcement capacity, my personal definition becomes relevant. Since that sort of personal definition is at the core of my personal opinion, it is totally relevant, if arbitrary. Huzzah, welcome to humanity. My personal opinion irrelevant? No more so than yours is, dear.
Perhaps irrelevant was to strong. Lets stick with ignorant.

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Le'ts call it years of casual observation, combined with a perhaps misguided desire to be as flexible as possible.
Lets call it vague instead.

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Yes. I take particular exception to .50 caliber handguns. What earthly need has anyone for that much bullet?
I would much rather be assaulted with a .50 caliber handgun. The assailent will have less rounds to shoot at me, his follow up shots will be less accurate, and he will tire far more easily than if he were using, say, a 9mm (which, to a human is every bit as lethal using modern ammunition). A .50 calibur bullet is just 5 hundredths of an inch bigger than a .45 calibur bullet, it is not some magic death machine because of it. (I assume you know the difference between a .50 AE and a .50 BMG, since we are talking about handguns here)

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Hmmm. So you say technology has made more powerful bullets mandatory? I think not. My definition stands, and you'll note that I made mention of some weapons needing alternate classification. Rifles would be a good example. Just because your pistol fires cop-killers doesn't mean that such bullets and weapons should be legal.
You may "think not" all you like, but you cannot fire LRN bullets out of a polygon rifled barrel. So yes, jacketed rounds are neccesary for some weapons. Also, any weapon capable of firing a non-jacketed round is equally capable of firing a jacketed round, so unless you reinvent the wheel you aren't going fix that issue.

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You're saying your target pistol is a .50-caliber pistol loaded with teflon or tracer rounds, carrying thirteen or more rounds? You have just defined your "target pistol" as vastly in excess of what you could almost ever conceivably need to defend yourself, unless perhaps you are regularly assailed by platoons of elephants wearing body armor.
Oh, do all the conditions have to apply? Mine just fires jacketed ammo, but by the phrasing of your definition above, that makes it an assault weapon.
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(... alternate definition of assault weaponry, notably excluding any post-ban weapon converted to full-automatic fire trimmed for space)

I'm so glad you have an opinion, but I think perhaps you shouldn't be quite so quick to call other folks' opinions irrelevant.
It is not an "alternate definition", nor is it my opinion. It is the definition of an assault weapon as layed down by the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (18 USC Chapter 44 as amended by Public Law 103-322). Converting any weapon to full auto has been against the law since the NFA of 1934.

Real quick, which gun is an assault weapon?



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