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Zeld2.0 · 07-24-2003, 05:19 PM

Powerful words too Darkblack - and i'll agree to an extent.

I'll say that the system has its flaws - those who don't work and only wait for the check when they can get work - aka exploiting the system.

But i will also say that many people shouldn't suffer from this. There are many single mothers out there who have maybe one or two kids only, not the stereotyped fat woman with 9 and more coming.

Many may have a job as well that pays only $17,000 a year and thus they need assistance.

IMO its an investment - if you can keep those kids in school then in the end they may be the next generation's middle class.

I'm from a pretty conservative middle class family - and I will tell you that I have seen both sides around here. There are many people who deserve aid - they work hard for very little money.

These people do the jobs none of us want - cooking, cleaning, driving cabs, and so on. And most are honest hard-workers.

What i say is that those who exploit the system shouldn't get aid so they realize they have to put their share in - but those who deserve it shouldn't suffer.

And money has its own problems, while many like to consider the lower class the ones with all the criminals, I'll say that from my own experience the middle class and the upper class kids are not much better - they have the money to do crimes and get away with it - not to mention with money they can go to the best colleges and often through cheating and unfair methods and get away with it. They ride on their parents' succes and/or influence to get to good schools and in the end run companies they probably didn't deserve.

Sure its how America is but you can't say thats how it should stay because thats a pretty fucked system that some people just say "oh well, its been like that forever, live with it" - that kind of apathy is what leads society down.

07-24-2003, 05:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	Powerful words too Darkblack - and i'll agree to an extent. I'll say that the system has its flaws - those who don't work and only wait for the check when they can get work - aka exploiting the system. But i will also say that many people shouldn't suffer from this. There are many single mothers out there who have maybe one or two kids only, not the stereotyped fat woman with 9 and more coming. Many may have a job as well that pays only $17,000 a year and thus they need assistance. IMO its an investment - if you can keep those kids in school then in the end they may be the next generation's middle class. I'm from a pretty conservative middle class family - and I will tell you that I have seen both sides around here. There are many people who deserve aid - they work hard for very little money. These people do the jobs none of us want - cooking, cleaning, driving cabs, and so on. And most are honest hard-workers. What i say is that those who exploit the system shouldn't get aid so they realize they have to put their share in - but those who deserve it shouldn't suffer. And money has its own problems, while many like to consider the lower class the ones with all the criminals, I'll say that from my own experience the middle class and the upper class kids are not much better - they have the money to do crimes and get away with it - not to mention with money they can go to the best colleges and often through cheating and unfair methods and get away with it. They ride on their parents' succes and/or influence to get to good schools and in the end run companies they probably didn't deserve. Sure its how America is but you can't say thats how it should stay because thats a pretty fucked system that some people just say "oh well, its been like that forever, live with it" - that kind of apathy is what leads society down.