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Originally posted by archer2371
WTF??! I wasn't talking about a singularity, I'm talking about matter, matter must be created by something that is not natural as the First Law of Thermodynamics states. This only leaves one option. A Creator. I'm not saying it's Yahweh, Allah, God, Buddah, what have you. I'm simply saying that a Divine Creator must exist (my personal viewpoint is that it is God, but I'm trying to present a small viewpoint and work up to the bigger picture). Thermodynamics deals with energy, and is not a singularity energy, and therefore wouldn't this law apply, something had to cause the Big Bang. (Which is what I assume is what you're talking about). The singularity had mass, which is made up of matter, which had to be made by an outside source that was NOT NATURAL. Thermodynamics applies to what the Big Bang started out as, a point no bigger than a period that had quite a lot of mass (made up of matter), it has quite a bit of energy, but it had to have an outside energy source to provoke it to explode, and thus spewing matter and energy (part of Thermodynamics mind you) everywhere and creating Universes and Worlds and a great many other things. Surely a person who is obviously well versed in the laws of physics must concede this point.
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No, a person well versed in physics merely sees that you aren't. I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just saying that, based on your statements on this board, you seem to lack knowlege about some of the basic principals you are using as basis for your "proof".
Again, physical laws break down when you aproach a singularity.
Also the first law is only
mostly true, in that there are instances where energy is created spontaneously...