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Old 07-22-2003, 12:14 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Forgive my lateness in posting this, I’ve been away. I see the conversation has moved on. Nonetheless, I feel compelled to reply to this, because it seems you missed my point.

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Originally posted by CSflim
Well no...Fact is Fact. Truth is Truth. Real is Real. Two contradictory things cannot be true.
You presumably fall back on your assumption that all religions are contradictory, which is understandable, given the state of the world today. However, I never said that two contradictory things could be true. Nowhere did I state that P & ~P was logical. Since everyone contributing to this thread seems so fond of logic, I will eschew rhetoric and re-express my point symbolically, even though it is not my strongest subject.

Organized religions claim that they are exclusively correct in their beliefs, and that therefore everyone else is wrong. I will represent this as

P v Q v R v S

(P,Q,R,S being religions, and the OR statement being the Exclusive OR, or more correctly (P v Q) & ~(P & Q), but give me a break, I have to write this in a hurry)

My assertion that all religions can in fact be correct was

P & Q & R & S

It was not, as you seemed to take it

P & ~P

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Originally posted by CSflim
The answer to that question is very simple, but it wouldn't be very PC of me to elaborate. But thats never stopped me before.

To all extents and purposes Evolution is a Fact. To all scientific people there is no question about it. The only reason there theory comes under any fire AT ALL, is nothing to do with bad science, it is to do with the fact that it infringes on their personal beliefs. The God story: hence creationism.

There is the Truth, and the Myth, hence Evolution vs. Creationism. Perhaps you, in your infinite wisdom would care to offer us a third and a forth proposal? [/B]
If evolution was in fact accepted as a law instead of a theory, this conversation would be moot. Little children would learn about it alongside the laws governing gravity and electricity in public schools, and that would be the end of it. But Evolution is not, for all extents and purposes, a fact. It remains an unproven theory.

Here is my third theory. Humans have always been here, and always will be. I have no evidence to back up this unproven theory, but that's not my point. I've had this conversation before, and it only took me a minute to come up with that idea. Surely other people could come up with other ideas, if they actually tried.
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