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Originally posted by billclinton
You seem to indicate that I should in some way feel pity for atheists because they live in a world that thinks differently than they do and that they live with the onus that they have nothing to really live for and that once they die, it is over-done-finished and everything that they lived for, thought, created, remembered....etc. is gone.....OK maybe I do feel some pity...but not in a charitable way so there's no need to take offense to my pity.
Also, morality is as easily undefineable for an atheist as it is for a theist. Atheists seem to argue that morality cannot be defined, but will still comment on how they are denizens of morality, albeit undefined?!?......
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1) You shouldn't feel pity for atheists, because they do not *want* your pity. Your pity for them would be misplaced and rather arrogant: "you know all the answers and those poor deluded fools do not... poor them." So, don't pity us - we'll enjoy our lives regardless. I understand that you may find it hard to accept such joy without an afterlife or reward, but I can guarantee you that I do enjoy my life. I'd also enjoy leaving some permanent positive mark on human history, no matter if I get a reward for it or not.
2) It doesn't really matter what the world *thinks* - they can still be wrong.
3) Atheists do not argue anything. Atheists aren't a homogeneous group, so they do not have one voice. Some of them may argue what you say they do, but others disagree, while yet others don't give a rat's arse. I think morality can easily be defined, as Kant has shown centuries ago. I live my life according to the laws of my country, a lot of common decency and common sense. I don't need a 2000+ year old book to tell me what's right and wrong, because I can think for myself.