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Originally posted by rogue49
That's silly; scientists prove negatives all the time.
Law does not equate to science or logic.
Besides, it depends on the court system and how it's set up.
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The point is, that scientists prove
fallsifiable things wrong all the time. There is a big difference.
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This is like a pregnancy test; if she's pregnant, it's positive
if she's not pregnant, it's negative.
Now it doesn't matter how you ask the question,
if is not positive, then it has to be negative (and that's more likely)
you've proven the negative; it's the positive that's always in doubt.
that's why they give further tests after the initial, just to make sure.
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The pregnancy test searches for the tell tale signs of a pregnancy. In the absence of these signs it turns up negative.
Imagine a woman recieves a negative result. She then turns to you and says, no the test is incorrect, I am pregnant. The test just cannot detect my special pregnancy. What can you say to that?
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Now, as far as your definition goes with my definition of "God",
yes, there would be an "anti-god"...it would be the Void. (non-existance)
Please remember my definition is not others, and not some being in "control",
mine is defined as the essence or the "soul" of the Universe.
I was not brought up with any religion whatsoever.
However, being me...I study everything, science, history, philosophy, etc.
and yes religions and other faiths.
My faith has grown & developed with my knowledge, experience and interaction with the world.
And believe me, I question & analyze everything.
However, you don't become as in tune or empathic as I am
without realizing everything is connected.
In scientific terms, you might define this as "chaos theory"
In philosophical terms, you might define this as "the Gaea concept"
This is my faith; however I extend it to Universal scale.
There isn't control, there only connection
growth & experience...like yourself...a great experiment.
There's good & bad about you & your body, and hopefully it gets better.
Same thing about your environment, your world
your universe.
So then prove to me you, aren't you.
Prove to your environment is not connected.
Prove to me the world isn't one unto itself, there is a balance it keeps.
Prove to me that the Universe isn't One & Individual (the Ultimate Duality)
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No. I won't prove to you that you are incorrect. You claims are completely unfalsifiable. I can "prove" you incorrect by pointing out that there is absolutely no evidence to point towards this conclusion.
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It seems absurd to try to prove this, doesn't it? (especially on that scale)
So for you to ask me to "prove" it to you seems unfair.
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At lest put forward some evidence to show why you believe what you do. Even if you lack a formal proof.
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For me to do all the work,
when I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe.
Gee, it kind of sounds like a "faith"[
Except your "faith" is atheism.
so be it, and I leave you to your explanation
and you leave me to mine
until either one of us can prove it either way.
This kind of sounds like an Agnostic....another faith.
hmm...
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Atheism is not a faith. Atehism is the rejection of any faith. I don't believe in anything. I don't have a theory to replace "God" with. In other words, I am fully admitting that I don't know where the universe came from. That being said, I don't see how anyone else can claim to know. I am rejecting the "theories" of religion, on the basis that they are not founded in fact. The reason I cannot
prove my "theory" is because I have nothing to prove! YOU are the one putting forward a theory, it is YOU who must prove it. If your theory is beyond proof (even in the loosest sense of the word) then the simple fact of the matter is that it is irrational to belive such.
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Like I said, let's use our science to prove the "how".
And we'll let our faith (or philosophies) support the "why".
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Maybe you could even prove that there IS a "why"?