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Originally posted by shrubbery
I'm shocked that citizens are allowed to carry concealed firearms in USA. Things sure are different on the other side of the ocean. In Norway no one owns a gun, not even the police carries firearms.
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Not all citizens, only those who complete a training course and meet all of the specifications which I outlined on page one.
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Originally posted by shrubbery
I suppose I live in a peter pan fantasy world, and I'm pretty damn glad I do. The Economist states in an editorial that when people can get guns more easily there are more deaths which are caused by guns. There is a research result in 1996 about murders with guns. According to this research, there were two murders in New Zealand, fifteen in Japan, 30 in United Kingdom, 106 in Canada, 211 in Germany. On the other hand, in the USA, there were 9,390 gun related murders (America, 1998). This is a plain fact. Though there is a difference in population between each countries, it seems that there are too many gun related murders in the USA. Firearms-related incidents are taking place even in countries that it is illegal to possess guns. Therefore, it is needless to say that more gun related incidents would be occurring if the government permits gun ownership.
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First off, the US is not Norway or New Zealand or Japan or the UK. Take a look at Switzerland if you want to compare gun-friendly countries of relative size to your own country.
Cigarette smoking kills more people each year, as do automobile accidents, than gun violence does. States which have "shall issue" conceal/carry laws actually experience
less gun violence than states which do not. In the United States the police force is not reasonably capable of protecting citizens from crime, they merely investigate and file reports after a crime has been committed. So, without a means of protecting themselves, the public are ripe targets for criminals. When properly trained (licensed), a woman can stand a chance at stopping an attempted rapist dead in his tracks and not just becoming a statistic.
Suggesting that allowing citizens to carry firearms will increase the murder rate is flawed -- in Minnesota
zero people permitted to carry a handgun have used it to murder someone not in self-defense. Permit holders do not routinely get into drunken brawls at pubs and shoot it out with other permit holders.