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Old 07-16-2003, 10:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Dragonlich
I'm with Sparhawk on this: Democrats and media personalities (usually) did not want *any* casualties at all.
I did not intend to suggest that all Democrats and media personalities were hoping for more US casualties, just that those who are bitter that Bush is president want to see him fail regardless of how many lives are lost in the process. There are people on both sides of the aisle who exist only to tear down the other, with no regard to those caught in the middle. If you find those people offensive (and who wouldn't?), don't associate with them.

The war on Iraq has been very successful so far as far as friendly and civilian casualties go. This fact, however, won't stop the major networks from essentially pumping their fists in the air every day that a friendly dies in a car crash in Iraq and blaming Bush for it.

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Originally posted by Dragonlich
The only people that really did want US casualties are (some of) the anti-American morons all over the planet. You know, the guys that applaud every attack against the "American invaders", and only focus on the negative aspects of the war (dead babies), without looking at the positive ones (freedom to protest those dead babies), or even dismissing the "Saddam was bad" arguments by saying it was all propaganda.

And contrary to what you may think, these guys aren't just located in the Muslim world; many a Westerner feels the same for some reason. Usually one can explain this by pointing at the Islamic roots of immigrants (and accompanying bias), but some people just want to blame the US for anything bad, which means that anyone fighting the US is necessarily good, no matter what they do or how they do it. You know, the type of guy that says: "9-11? That was because of our foreign policy, man! We have to pull back our troops and give the terrorists what they want; then they'll stop blowing us up!" --- I have but one thing to say to these guys: Hitler vs Chamberlain, Munich, 1938; look it up.
Once again, I completely agree with you here, though I think that "many a Westerner feels the same for some reason" is largely due to network media coverage. I don't have cable, all I have is local/network television and the top story every day is essentially "another US soldier dies in Iraq, is Bush to blame?" If Hillary were in charge right now in the same situation you would hear the same argument from the other side.
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