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some people seem to think that there are at least a few valid reasons for suicide. Others seem to think it's all out wrong. so, my question to you is: what are good reasons to kill yourself? Is it ever justified?

My opinion, is that cases of extreme pain, where going on just isn't an option, justified suicide. I do not think that said pain must be physical. Perminant psychological torture is just as painful as physical torture, and I don't see the need for distinction between the two. I often hear that suicide is selfish, because people don't think of the one's they leave behind. This perplexes me, because whenever I was hurting, I was always told to take care of myself, before worrying about others. Which is it?