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YzermanS19 · 07-14-2003, 02:29 PM

First off, I wanted to put this in general discussion because I don't know really where else I could put it.

It completely blows my mind how complex humans are. One aspect of this is the "Holy" experience. A moment of levity, complete and utter perfection. As if you have ascended in consciousness. They come from all sorts of causes, i.e. religion, drugs, music, relaxation, meditation, study, etc etc.

I believe I have had a few major experiences like this, and several smaller ones. I've done drugs that have obtained this, but this isn't going to turn into a drug arguement, whether its right or wrong. I want this discussion to be above that.

A few of the experiences I wish to share-
1. The earliest one I remember is driving home during a summer night in my car listening to music. The cool wind blew in through my open windows and the sky was clear, allowing the road to be lit up by the heavens, far out from the city lights. I even stopped and got out of my car to admire what was going on, and then it hit me that that was the absolute perfect moment. I can't really describe it any other way. It sounds cheesy, but it felt as if at that time the planets aligned and everything in the universe was acting on myself.

2. I've done psilocibe mushrooms a couple times before, and I can tell you the first time I did them it was a holy experience. I refuse to do them any more as it feels as though I am "cheating" by coming back to that place through a short cut of some sort. Call me an idiot, but what I've learned about consciousness, it seems that there are other ways to reach levels like that. Look at Ram Dass, aka Richard Alpert, a leader in the drug culture during the 60s. The guy reached levels of consciousness through meditation hard work, and ritual that he had obtained years earlier through drugs. Very interesting. Also, I once heard a story where a Guru in India was given something like 30x a normal dosage of LSD and laughed at what the effects were. He laughed because he had such control over his own consciousness that he was unaffected by the dosage. It may just be a rumor, but thats how it goes.

There are other ones, just times of relaxation where I think that it couldnt possibly be any more perfect.

How about you? What do you think? Have you had any?

I may be way off on this, and never truly had one. I know its possible, but from what I know, those that I shared (I have more that I want to keep for myself) are my idea of the "holy" experience.

07-14-2003, 02:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
YzermanS19 not your typical god-fearing junkie Location: State of Confusion	The "Holy" Experience... First off, I wanted to put this in general discussion because I don't know really where else I could put it. It completely blows my mind how complex humans are. One aspect of this is the "Holy" experience. A moment of levity, complete and utter perfection. As if you have ascended in consciousness. They come from all sorts of causes, i.e. religion, drugs, music, relaxation, meditation, study, etc etc. I believe I have had a few major experiences like this, and several smaller ones. I've done drugs that have obtained this, but this isn't going to turn into a drug arguement, whether its right or wrong. I want this discussion to be above that. A few of the experiences I wish to share- 1. The earliest one I remember is driving home during a summer night in my car listening to music. The cool wind blew in through my open windows and the sky was clear, allowing the road to be lit up by the heavens, far out from the city lights. I even stopped and got out of my car to admire what was going on, and then it hit me that that was the absolute perfect moment. I can't really describe it any other way. It sounds cheesy, but it felt as if at that time the planets aligned and everything in the universe was acting on myself. 2. I've done psilocibe mushrooms a couple times before, and I can tell you the first time I did them it was a holy experience. I refuse to do them any more as it feels as though I am "cheating" by coming back to that place through a short cut of some sort. Call me an idiot, but what I've learned about consciousness, it seems that there are other ways to reach levels like that. Look at Ram Dass, aka Richard Alpert, a leader in the drug culture during the 60s. The guy reached levels of consciousness through meditation hard work, and ritual that he had obtained years earlier through drugs. Very interesting. Also, I once heard a story where a Guru in India was given something like 30x a normal dosage of LSD and laughed at what the effects were. He laughed because he had such control over his own consciousness that he was unaffected by the dosage. It may just be a rumor, but thats how it goes. There are other ones, just times of relaxation where I think that it couldnt possibly be any more perfect. How about you? What do you think? Have you had any? I may be way off on this, and never truly had one. I know its possible, but from what I know, those that I shared (I have more that I want to keep for myself) are my idea of the "holy" experience. __________________ the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long and you have burned so very, very brightly