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Old 07-08-2003, 06:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
Sleepyjack
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Location: Australia, Perth
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lurkette said

This is the kind of judgment I would pass on people on meds before I discovered that I "needed" them myself. For some people, these methods you describe work. However, for many others there is an actual chemical imbalance in the brain that is too severe to be dealt with with yoga and music. Much of depression and anxiety are cognitive and so can be dealt with through therapy or spiritual methods; however, for some people the therapy or yoga or whatever are simply not effective if you've passed some critical point, and you need the drugs to "reset" your brain chemistry to the point where you can function and get back on track. Exercise plus therapy has been shown to be as effective as SSRIs alone for people with MILD depression; however, for people with severe depression, chemicals are often the only option. I know you didn't intend it this way, but your statement simply makes people who have chosen medications to treat depression feel worse - there's already this horrible feeling of being out of control of your own thoughts and emotions, and to have someone say "if only you tried harder to control things through yoga and music you wouldn't need the drugs"....well, you might as well tack on "you losers" to the end of the sentence. Do you think we don't TRY those things first? Do you think we say "oh goodie, I'm clinical now, I can have drugs!!!" Drugs are often the course of last resort for people who have tried everything else. This is not simply a case of the "blah's" that we are treating, turning to drugs because we can't deal with life. This is an overwhelming feeling of hopelessness and worthlessness and panic that persists despite the fact that we know better! So don't be so quick to judge us.
no, no sorry. That was not my intention. Its just i was reading through and no one was really talking about any kind of natural or common everyday things to help you become at peace with yourself (other than thearpy). And i kinda naively assumed that no one had thought of anything else and just jumped to a last case scenario. sorry.
I appreciate that for some people, they need treatment because there is actually an imabalance in the brain which needs to be artifically corrected, or that its so serve that its a last case scenario. Fortunalty thats not the case for me, and i am empathetic with you and everyone else.

Also i am not judging anyone, and thats not my agenda. I was just saying what helps me and what works for me. Using judgement and judging has a connatations of some level of superiority on my part, and i remind you and everyone that i am not better than you and your not better than me.

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bing bing said

Your post juxtaposed with your signature made me laugh . But i do agree with what you've said. I've tried, and still do everything to try and fix my depression naturally but it just didn't cut and i felt that if i didn't start with the meds again, i wouldn't be around much longer.
lol, i am not sure if you're familar with bill hick's musings and concepts, but that little cut refers to a "positive" drug story. And yeah, no one seem to be disscussing other methods of anti-depressants, so yeah i was just saying what i use. I don't and never want to come across with a holier than thou attitude.

i'll finish off with another quote from the great man bill hicks.

"Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?"
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