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Old 07-08-2003, 12:43 AM   #45 (permalink)
Sun Tzu
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HarmlessRabbit I did misread what you said; so I apologize if I sounded like an ass. I’m no longer in the medical field, but my last job within the community was working as nutritionist at an anti-aging clinic (or clinical age-management as they call it now) I did personal training on the side, but after 2 years I got fed up with people not following the routines they paid me to design for them. The things going on inside the clinic were always fascinating, but that’s a different area and discussion.

The Atkins diet works. I’ve done it myself; I actually did a more hardcore version of it with a technique known as extended carb loading. M-F I would intake only 14grams of complex carbs per day the rest was about 2500 calories of protein and fat. On Saturday and Sunday I would load on carbs every two hours (literally every two hours) www.bodybuild.com/ans/otsad.htm

Without drugs I was completely shredded at 7.9% body fat from 13.2 in 9 weeks this on top of gaining 15 lbs of lean mass. I was irritable, and I didn’t do any renal damage. It was a good thing I had access the most sophisticated lab in the world http://www.kronoscompany.com/services.aspx is one of the things I miss about working there. That area of medicine is definitely for the wealthy elite, and unfortunately I’m still climbing my ladder. My blood work looked OK except high LDL and HDL levels.

That was to be expected and should be by anyone on this or an Atkins diet, its going to happen. I took Niacin with an aspirin to counter the flush nightly. I titrated up to 1500 mgs and that brought my levels down with 10 days. I expected my urinary uric and calcium levels to be elevated, but holy shit they were through the roof. Back then I really didn’t care because I have; admit tingly used a few enhancers here and there. Not to mention I was get growth hormone through the clinic so my mentality was a little “tilted”. What I’ve come to realize that just because it works and doesn’t kill you in 6 months, doesn’t mean it’s something a person should do for the rest of their life. If it’s done to knock off the initial pounds; what about when they’re done?

From what I’ve seen in myself and in many others: in physical results, lab work, and mental attitude the zone direction has yielded the greatest results.

5 meals throughout the day broken up evenly with caloric intake appropriate for whatever goals are being targeted in a ratio of: 40% protein, 30% complex carbs, 30% FFs (mono, polyunsaturated, etc) with the 6 meal being straight protein (the last one usually around bedtime for nitrogen retention, and IGF-1 stimulation)

This keeps the insulin level regulated and even which will yield obvious great results (most overlook the anabolic properties of insulin-far greater than even testosterone)

It keeps the brain fed well on the fuel that keeps it going (glucose)

Keeps muscles fed with glycogen: there’s ways to force the body to utilize fat for fuel during workouts to optimize time spent in the gym- a common concern.

It’s an eating regime that someone can do for the rest of their life.

These are just a few.


I also see allot of people talking about losing pounds. I can understand if were talking 200-300 lbs over weight, but I think if more attention was spent monitoring the fat percentage/ lean mass ration vs. going by the scale alone they could better gauge where they are truly at.

I fully understand the science behind the anabolic diet I was on, but around my 11th week I could see my body was starting to go into a catabolic state.


This was a little of my own personal feedback, I’ll post the studies I wanted you to take a look at, as well as some of the research criteria that is used in Atkins studies on my next post.

I check the Atkins site from time to time because its update when they finish each study. I did find the NEJM article interesting, the first line of the abstract says allot though.


Now I understand about the urologist thing.

Hey MU are you an MD?
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