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The stats on voter affiliation:religion was in a govt book I used last semester. It stated, many christians voted for democrats a majority. This is easily seen. IE(bill clinton, REV. jesse jackson,jfk(catholic),REV al sharpton, etc etc) just to name a few well known christian democrats. Statistics are changing my friend. It's also a well known fact that hispanics, many many of which are christian vote highly democrat.
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I already posted a link to answer this. Until you can do the same....
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Do you mean to tell me that you don't think that some women abuse the system? Open up your mind a bit, it DOES happen. I didn't say all women on welfare. You say later on "Maybe in your next life you can be a "ghetto" mom with 10 kids so you can see what the other side is like"
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I am sure some do abuse the system but you stated that this is they only reason that they do it. I suggested your next life being a "ghetto" (the word that you used) mom with 10 kids so that you could see how you got those kids and realized that you were not abusing the system on purpose but because of lack of education and social programs to help you better your life.
[qoute]Let me ask you this, why do you think moms with 10 kids have 10 kids? Because she decided, I had 1 why not 9 more? As if being on welfare isn't hard enough. I'll go on to say there are more factors than welfare money that lead to large families in poor areas, but money certainly is an influence. I am an advocate for welfare, it just needs to be cleaned up, just like every other govt program. By the way, by no means was I born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I come from a large family where money was tight. Fortunately I grew up with loving parents who encouraged my education. I have alot of experience working with lesser fortunate people. I used to work at homeless shelters all the time. I realize how fortunate I am, I don't take my existance for granted.[/quote]
Mothers have 10 kids because of lack of education on issues such as birth control.
I agree welfare needs work but that is not the issue here.
I am glad you take time out to help out less fortunate. I do also and it makes us better people. Maybe you should try talking to them and getting to know them rather than looking down on them. Just a thought.
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My logic is not flawed. It's right on. You are always growing, the baby is independant of the mother. You were independant the day you were born, but yet your mother provided food and shelter for you, just like a mother who has a child in the womb. By the way, you didn't answer Killconey's questions. Are you saying foster parents only do it for the money? The money is just to help out. Do you think the states give thousands of dollars? I think not. Its going to be a small amount. Most do it out of love.
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If you have a tumor in your body it is growing also. It is also a group of cells bunched together. I know there are a difference but not much at first.
As for Killconeys question I did answer it. Adoption and foster care are two different things. Foster care parents get a good amount for it. I know a foster family through a friend and trust me the get paid. I think it is around a thousand per month per child she is getting paid. Which is why she does it. She doesn't work she sits at home watching TV while the kids run wild. This is just one example. I agree that there are some that are loving people that want to help children. That is not what I was trying to say anyway. I was stating that the money that the government pays foster parents would be better spent for social education programs and welfare for the biological mothers. Now neither of you answered my question. What do you think would happen if every aborted child were put of for adoption?
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C-sections are done painlessly all the time, everyday. I never said women were property, or my property for that matter. Putting words in my mouth doesn't help your argument. C-sections are better because the mother can be under anesthetics and not feel the baby being removed unlike an abortion. Its a very small incision and takes no time. Its the best way, the mother doesnt become attached, the baby lives and life goes on.
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I would like a doctor’s comment on this. I have not seen a c-section done since my little sister was born 25 years ago. At that time it was not such an easy get up and go thing. Even if it is a 20-minute process where the mom is eating bonbons while the doctor is cutting open her belly that is not the point. The point is the mother has to carry the child 9 1\2 months while the father watches football, hangs out with his boys, sleeps with his new girlfriend, says that’s not my baby, does all the things new fathers do these days while the mother is in hell. Wondering why her life got ruined. I don't think you are seeing my point so I will drop it.