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The stats on voter affiliation:religion was in a govt book I used last semester. It stated, many christians voted for democrats a majority. This is easily seen. IE(bill clinton, REV. jesse jackson,jfk(catholic),REV al sharpton, etc etc) just to name a few well known christian democrats. Statistics are changing my friend. It's also a well known fact that hispanics, many many of which are christian vote highly democrat.


Do you mean to tell me that you don't think that some women abuse the system? Open up your mind a bit, it DOES happen. I didn't say all women on welfare. You say later on "Maybe in your next life you can be a "ghetto" mom with 10 kids so you can see what the other side is like"

Let me ask you this, why do you think moms with 10 kids have 10 kids? Because she decided, I had 1 why not 9 more? As if being on welfare isn't hard enough. I'll go on to say there are more factors than welfare money that lead to large families in poor areas, but money certainly is an influence. I am an advocate for welfare, it just needs to be cleaned up, just like every other govt program. By the way, by no means was I born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I come from a large family where money was tight. Fortunately I grew up with loving parents who encouraged my education. I have alot of experience working with lesser fortunate people. I used to work at homeless shelters all the time. I realize how fortunate I am, I don't take my existance for granted.

My logic is not flawed. It's right on. You are always growing, the baby is independant of the mother. You were independant the day you were born, but yet your mother provided food and shelter for you, just like a mother who has a child in the womb. By the way, you didn't answer Killconey's questions. Are you saying foster parents only do it for the money? The money is just to help out. Do you think the states give thousands of dollars? I think not. Its going to be a small amount. Most do it out of love.

I think the others have answered on my behalf about how the man does have some say over his child. I will say this, you are partly right, a man should be responsible enough to get a vasectomy if he doesn't want kids. But it takes 2, therefore both parties are responsible.



C-sections are done painlessly all the time, everyday. I never said women were property, or my property for that matter. Putting words in my mouth doesn't help your argument. C-sections are better because the mother can be under anesthetics and not feel the baby being removed unlike an abortion. Its a very small incision and takes no time. Its the best way, the mother doesnt become attached, the baby lives and life goes on.






You are right, I did mean adoption. However, people who adopt provide many essential needs and could be considered foster parents. I know the foster system is also flawed and needs to be "cleaned up". But at least it gives kids a chance to be someone, not just another abortion stat.