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Old 07-01-2003, 11:08 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Let me see if I get this right.... Birth control is bad to Christians because you are preventing the birth of god’s children.
Not all. By the way,lets leave religion out. This is a morality issue.

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Now not using birth control they have 5 kids but you conservatives (who are mostly Christian) think she should not have kids if she cannot afford them and should not get assistance from the government because that would be your tax dollars.
This statement is totally false and made in ignorance. You are classifying Chrisitians as /conservative/repulicans when infact a majority of Christians consider themselves democrats(especially catholics). And just to let you know, often times those women who are poor and come from the ghetto have kids PURPOSELY to get more welfare, not because she didn't use a condom or because she didn't have an abortion. Unfortunately it's very hard for those who come from the ghetto to get out, which means most stay their a majority of their lives, having children happens in all neighborhoods, it just happens to be a hell of a lot tougher when you are brought up in the ghetto.

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She also should not have an abortion because that would be killing one of god’s children.
Nobody knows biologically when life begins and that's why abortions at all levels are wrong. Since a baby is usually the outcome from the sperm meeting the egg Christians say that's when life begins. People who are advocates of abortion say first and second trimester abortions are cool, however, third trimester abortions aren't. Why is this? Let me ask you this, what is the difference between a baby the day its born and the day before its born?.. Nothing. So with this logic, it would be ok for the mother to kill her child between the ages of 1 and 3 but at the age of 4 it's illegal. That's crap. Humans are always growing, always, until the day you die. The logic behind "well the baby hasn't fully grown and therefore it's life can be terminated" is utter stupidity. Even you are still growing/developing. Would it be ok for me to terminate you? I guess it should be legal to terminate women before menopause, after all they aren't fully grown.



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So should she give up the children for adoption so your tax money can pay more to foster parents than they do to the welfare mothers?
Again, this is false. Foster parents pay TONS of money to adopt children. Not Tax money. State system do use tax money but a majority of those kids are there who's parents neglected them or because all their family is dead or their parents went to jail. Adoption can be an expensive process depending on how you go about it, especially if the child is adopted from overseas.


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For those of you that think a man should have equal say in this matter. I will agree to this once you carry a child around in your womb for 9 months.
I'm sorry, it still takes a man to conceive. Unless the woman is asexual a man should have part of the choice, after all it is half his biologically . Women know that they carry the baby should they become pregnant, if they don't want a kid, do what it takes not to have one.



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Maybe get raped by your father at 13 and pregnant with your son/brother. Or go running in the park and get raped only to carry the son of the bastard that violated you. Better yet, your wife gets pregnant with your child, and dies on the operating table along with the child because they needed to remove the unborn baby to save her.

We all know rape is an infinetly horrible thing. Nobody is arguing this point. Women can have c-sections to get the baby out rather than go through labor, its quicker and easier. If shes under sedation she won't even see the baby. The child in a rape case is an unfortunate outcome,however don't take its life, it didnt ask to be brought into the world. It deserves the right to life. Rather than taking life we can give it, giving the child a chance to become somebody, not just another abortion statistic. If the mother is going to die giving birth than have an operation to remove the child but still try to sustain its life. This is the worst case scenario. If the doctors know a woman can't go through labor they won't make her, she'll have a simple procedure to remove the child through c-section.

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