Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - View Single Post - DEM. George McGovern's Essay: The Reason Why?-published 4/21/03 (all must read!)

samremy · 06-24-2003, 09:09 PM

<div align=justify>I apologize for not commenting on McGovern’s Essay at the time of posting. I wanted to test the waters of the ‘Tilted Politics’ forum by seeing what kind of response this post would receive . That said, I will now comment on the opening statement; since it was the main topic of most replies.

“Thanks to the most crudely partisan decision in the history of the Supreme Court, the nation has been given a President of painfully limited wisdom and compassion and lacking any sense of the nation's true greatness. Appearing to enjoy his role as Commander in Chief of the armed forces above all other functions of his office, and unchecked by a seemingly timid Congress, a compliant Supreme Court, a largely subservient press and a corrupt corporate plutocracy, George W. Bush has set the nation on a course for one-man rule.”

The fact of the Supreme Court makes partisan decisions cannot be argued, for it is most definitely a fact.

As far as ‘W’s lack of both wisdom and compassion is concerned, I would find it surprising for any conservative with an ounce of intellect to argue that point. His limited vocabulary and obvious fear of press conferences is astonishing. How can it be? He doesn’t quite personify an Ivy League graduate from both Harvard and Yale. Does he? How can such an educated man with an MBA from the Harvard Business School make this statement? “Let me tell you my thoughts about tax relief. When your economy is kind of ooching along, it's important to let people have more of their own money.”- George W. Bush, Boston, Oct. 4, 2002. It's not just because I strongly believe that whatever the pitiful amount is of "...their own money" from some tax cut, it doesn't equal or even compare to the benefits the average person and the national economy receive from steady income, which only steady employment provides, It's actually the tremendous embarrassment I feel knowing that our president uses words like “ooching”? Unbelievably, he actually makes Dan 'potatoe' Quail look like a Mensa genius!

Now, how can the leader of the free world be afraid of the journalist Helen Thomas, an 82-year-old woman? Did he have to ban this respected member of the press because her questions aren't easy; couldn’t he have been a little compassionate and shown some politeness and just not call on her? Was it is his wisdom or compassion, which forced him to insult the award winning journalist heard asking the tough questions at most presidential press conferences since JFK? Must 'W' have press conferences scripted as if they were 'State of the Union' speeches? Now I know, I just realized how 'W' ever made it through Harvard and Yale.

‘W’s amount of compassion as well as his level of wisdom can easily be determined by what he says:“There's only one person who is responsible for making that decision (to go to war), and that's me. And there's only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives and the kids on the death of their loved ones. Others hug, but having committed the troops, I've got an additional responsibility to hug, and that's me, and I know what it's like.” -‘W’ interviewed by Barbara Walters, ABC ‘20/20,’ 12/13/02.He probably learned all about compassion from his mother. Here’s what the former first lady said about watching the war on TV;“I watch none. He sits and listens and I read books, because I know perfectly well that, don't take offense, that 90 percent of what I hear on television is supposition, when we're talking about the news. And he's not, not as understanding of my pettiness about that. But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer.” –told to Diane Sawyer, ABC/Good Morning America, March 18, 2003 I hope she wasn't talking about US service men in body bags being irrelevant. I sure wish 'W' would take after his father, but judging by the words that come out of his mouth, he just might merely be a 'mamas boy'. How unfortunate for America.

We all saw ‘W’ landing on the aircraft carrier, I would say he enjoys being commander and chief. Wouldn’t you agree?

I don’t think I have to argue the point that Congress is timid, especially since most of the democrats in Congress are too weak, concerned that standing-up to a president with high approval ratings might cost them their re-election, despite the high cost to America's economy, credibility and honor.

In essence, McGovern is correct, a man such as 'W' has no understanding of the greatness this country possesses. What is most unfortunate, 'W' doesn't have the common sense to realize that such greatness is being significantly diminished by having Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz unchecked by allowing them to determine the nation's foreign and domestic policies, all the while 'W's obliviously(and obviously) enjoying his dirty little war. How shameful!

I can't agree more with McGovern's opening.
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06-24-2003, 09:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
samremy ‘Crotch Level’ Intellectual Location: Southwest, USA	<div align=justify>I apologize for not commenting on McGovern’s Essay at the time of posting. I wanted to test the waters of the ‘Tilted Politics’ forum by seeing what kind of response this post would receive . That said, I will now comment on the opening statement; since it was the main topic of most replies. “Thanks to the most crudely partisan decision in the history of the Supreme Court, the nation has been given a President of painfully limited wisdom and compassion and lacking any sense of the nation's true greatness. Appearing to enjoy his role as Commander in Chief of the armed forces above all other functions of his office, and unchecked by a seemingly timid Congress, a compliant Supreme Court, a largely subservient press and a corrupt corporate plutocracy, George W. Bush has set the nation on a course for one-man rule.” The fact of the Supreme Court makes partisan decisions cannot be argued, for it is most definitely a fact. As far as ‘W’s lack of both wisdom and compassion is concerned, I would find it surprising for any conservative with an ounce of intellect to argue that point. His limited vocabulary and obvious fear of press conferences is astonishing. How can it be? He doesn’t quite personify an Ivy League graduate from both Harvard and Yale. Does he? How can such an educated man with an MBA from the Harvard Business School make this statement? “Let me tell you my thoughts about tax relief. When your economy is kind of ooching along, it's important to let people have more of their own money.”- George W. Bush, Boston, Oct. 4, 2002. It's not just because I strongly believe that whatever the pitiful amount is of "...their own money" from some tax cut, it doesn't equal or even compare to the benefits the average person and the national economy receive from steady income, which only steady employment provides, It's actually the tremendous embarrassment I feel knowing that our president uses words like “ooching”? Unbelievably, he actually makes Dan 'potatoe' Quail look like a Mensa genius! Now, how can the leader of the free world be afraid of the journalist Helen Thomas, an 82-year-old woman? Did he have to ban this respected member of the press because her questions aren't easy; couldn’t he have been a little compassionate and shown some politeness and just not call on her? Was it is his wisdom or compassion, which forced him to insult the award winning journalist heard asking the tough questions at most presidential press conferences since JFK? Must 'W' have press conferences scripted as if they were 'State of the Union' speeches? Now I know, I just realized how 'W' ever made it through Harvard and Yale. ‘W’s amount of compassion as well as his level of wisdom can easily be determined by what he says:“There's only one person who is responsible for making that decision (to go to war), and that's me. And there's only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives and the kids on the death of their loved ones. Others hug, but having committed the troops, I've got an additional responsibility to hug, and that's me, and I know what it's like.” -‘W’ interviewed by Barbara Walters, ABC ‘20/20,’ 12/13/02.He probably learned all about compassion from his mother. Here’s what the former first lady said about watching the war on TV;“I watch none. He sits and listens and I read books, because I know perfectly well that, don't take offense, that 90 percent of what I hear on television is supposition, when we're talking about the news. And he's not, not as understanding of my pettiness about that. But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer.” –told to Diane Sawyer, ABC/Good Morning America, March 18, 2003 I hope she wasn't talking about US service men in body bags being irrelevant. I sure wish 'W' would take after his father, but judging by the words that come out of his mouth, he just might merely be a 'mamas boy'. How unfortunate for America. We all saw ‘W’ landing on the aircraft carrier, I would say he enjoys being commander and chief. Wouldn’t you agree? I don’t think I have to argue the point that Congress is timid, especially since most of the democrats in Congress are too weak, concerned that standing-up to a president with high approval ratings might cost them their re-election, despite the high cost to America's economy, credibility and honor. In essence, McGovern is correct, a man such as 'W' has no understanding of the greatness this country possesses. What is most unfortunate, 'W' doesn't have the common sense to realize that such greatness is being significantly diminished by having Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz unchecked by allowing them to determine the nation's foreign and domestic policies, all the while 'W's obliviously(and obviously) enjoying his dirty little war. How shameful! I can't agree more with McGovern's opening. </div> __________________ "...to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government .. " -- The US Declaration of Independence Last edited by samremy; 06-25-2003 at 09:00 AM..