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Old 06-23-2003, 05:25 PM   #56 (permalink)
butthead
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Opinion, yours.
No, actually, the chain of events are factual. Re-read the article.

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So answer the question: what is AZ law's position on this?
From http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/00404.htm:

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13-404. Justification; self-defense

A. Except as provided in subsection B of this section, a person is justified in threatening or using physical force against another when and to the extent a reasonable person would believe that physical force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful physical force.

B. The threat or use of physical force against another is not justified:

1. In response to verbal provocation alone; or

2. To resist an arrest that the person knows or should know is being made by a peace officer or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, whether the arrest is lawful or unlawful, unless the physical force used by the peace officer exceeds that allowed by law; or

3. If the person provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful physical force, unless:

(a) The person withdraws from the encounter or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely withdraw from the encounter; and

(b) The other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful physical force against the person.
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I really believe that we as a nation have taken the touchy feely philosophy too far.
I don't know exactly what you mean by "touchy feely", but if you're referring to attempting to retain justice, I must disagree.

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Why the fuck should they be shown any different?
Because it is their constitutional right to due process, not vigilante justice. (If vigilante justice fits the crime then they shouldn't be charged by the courts at all, if you're going to go that route).

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There's a farmer in Britain who shot a burglar after having been robbed several times. Guess who went to prison as the danger to society? Now that he's up for parole, it's being argued that burglars have a right to be protected from this maniac and that he should remain in jail. Is this where we're headed?
Straw-man fallacy. On top of that, these are different circumstances.

Also, irrelevant to the charging and punishment of the suspects or the owner.
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