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yatzr · 06-21-2003, 11:14 PM

i realize that abortion is a touchy subject, but i really wanna know some people's point of view without starting a fight.
I was wondering what any prochoicers thoughts were on the forced abortions that are taking place in china. If you don't know, china's population control plan includes forced contraception, forced sterilization, and forced abortions along with the one child policy. I listened to a professor from stanford give a talk about it (i forget his first name but his last name was mosser). He's one of the nations leading experts on population studies and he went to china to check out what they were doing. He talked about one abortion he witnessed where the baby's head was crowning and they gave it a lethal injection (in china as long as the baby is still in the birth canal, it is still a legal abortion). After this he started to speak out against these forced abortions because america was actually helping to fund this (we were giving a bunch of money to the united nations for population control funds who were in turn giving it to china...Bush then cut the fund, Clinton gave it back, little Bush cut it again). He first went to the national organization of women (or something like that...the big organization of women for women's rights who are very big pro choice) and asked them to help. He told them that these women are not being given a CHOICE. They told him that china had a population problem and they needed it. That struck me as odd. He also mentioned that europe is encountering a DEpopulation problem as they as a whole have actually started decreasing their population with some countries avg. around 1.5 children per family. So then i wondered "well what if their problem gets to the point where they outlaw abortion and have 'forced births'?"...I'm sure that organization would fight for the women's rights on that one. So for anyone who is prochoice (i'm pretty sure i can figure out the thoughts of prolifers), i'd like to hear your thoughts on this without starting a fight so please be nice. thanks

06-21-2003, 11:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
yatzr Insane	touchy subject i realize that abortion is a touchy subject, but i really wanna know some people's point of view without starting a fight. I was wondering what any prochoicers thoughts were on the forced abortions that are taking place in china. If you don't know, china's population control plan includes forced contraception, forced sterilization, and forced abortions along with the one child policy. I listened to a professor from stanford give a talk about it (i forget his first name but his last name was mosser). He's one of the nations leading experts on population studies and he went to china to check out what they were doing. He talked about one abortion he witnessed where the baby's head was crowning and they gave it a lethal injection (in china as long as the baby is still in the birth canal, it is still a legal abortion). After this he started to speak out against these forced abortions because america was actually helping to fund this (we were giving a bunch of money to the united nations for population control funds who were in turn giving it to china...Bush then cut the fund, Clinton gave it back, little Bush cut it again). He first went to the national organization of women (or something like that...the big organization of women for women's rights who are very big pro choice) and asked them to help. He told them that these women are not being given a CHOICE. They told him that china had a population problem and they needed it. That struck me as odd. He also mentioned that europe is encountering a DEpopulation problem as they as a whole have actually started decreasing their population with some countries avg. around 1.5 children per family. So then i wondered "well what if their problem gets to the point where they outlaw abortion and have 'forced births'?"...I'm sure that organization would fight for the women's rights on that one. So for anyone who is prochoice (i'm pretty sure i can figure out the thoughts of prolifers), i'd like to hear your thoughts on this without starting a fight so please be nice. thanks __________________ Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.