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Old 06-20-2003, 07:15 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally posted by The_Dude
it's one person, one vote.

how come your vote counts more than mine?? dont you think that's unfair?
How come my vote counts more than yours - it probably didn't . Actually neither one of our votes probably made one iota of difference. I can explain why your vote may not have counted at all. Texas has 32 electors or votes in the electoral college. It has 5.95% of the voters in the US. There are 16,986,335 people in Texas (2000 Census). If the vote was split almost equally - one more vote for one candidate than the other, the candidate that got that one extra vote got everyone of Texas 32 electoral votes because it boils down to winner takes all. If yours was that one vote (in the example I gave) then your vote was the only vote in Texas that in this instance actually counted. If you were on the side that was one vote short - then yours, and none of those who voted for your candidates vote counted for anything except it figures into the popular vote which means absolutely positively nothing in the greater scheme of things.



You might check this out:

http://www.click2houston.com/sh/elec...05-195447.html

So Just What Is The Electoral College?
Remember The Electoral College From Social Studies? Here's A Refresher
As you may recall from social studies, when millions of Americans voted in the presidential election Tuesday, they were not actually voting for a candidate -- directly. The votes that count are the 270 cast by the members of the little-understood Electoral College.
It may have bored you back then -- and it's often viewed as an oddity -- but the low-profile ritual of the Electoral College is suddenly critically important. Because the race between George W. Bush and Al Gore is so close, the official voters of the Electoral College could conceivably pick a president that's not the same one chosen by a majority of the people.

Reason enough for a refresher course:

What it is: A group of representatives chosen by the voters of each state to elect the president and vice president. When Americans vote in a presidential election, they are technically picking representatives pledged to the candidates, not voting directly for the candidates themselves.

Who they are: Representatives are usually chosen by state committees or party conventions.

What they do: The electors meet on a day in December, often in their state capitals, and by custom or law vote for their party's choice for president and vice president.

How it's made up: Each state has as many votes in the Electoral College as the total of its senators and representatives in Congress.

How it works: In most cases, the candidate who wins the highest number of popular votes in a state gets all of that state's electoral votes.

By the numbers: A candidate needs 270 electoral votes out of 538 to win the presidency. Big states: California, 54 electoral votes; New York, 33; Texas, 32; Florida, 25; Pennsylvania, 23; Ohio, 21; Illinois, 22; Michigan, 18.

How it's changed: Before the emergence of two political parties, the candidate who came second in the electoral vote became vice president. Among other changes: the 23rd Amendment, ratified in 1961, enfranchised the District of Columbia, which has three electoral votes.

How it started: The process was chosen at the 1787 Constitutional Convention. The convention rejected the idea that Congress elect the president, on the grounds that he would be under the legislature's control, and rejected a proposal that citizens elect the president directly.

The ritual: In January, at a joint session in the House of Representatives, the president of the Senate opens the sealed certificates and one Democrat and one Republican from each house count the votes. The candidate getting a majority is declared elected.

The quirk: It is possible for a candidate to win the most electoral votes and become president even while losing the popular vote nationally. In 1824, 1876 and 1888, the winner of the popular vote lost the election.

What if there's a tie? In the event no candidate obtains a majority of electoral votes for president, the U.S. House of Representatives selects the president from among the top three contenders, with each state casting only one vote. One candidate must obtain a majority of votes to be elected. Similarly, if no one obtains an absolute majority for vice president, the U.S. Senate makes the selection from among the top two contenders for that office.



If you look at this map you will see that the majority of the country - area wise and state wise voted for George Bush - Gore carried basically only ther heavily populated metropolitan areas. The only place Gore even came close to winning this election - regardless of what Democrats would like to think, Bush kicked Gore's ass everywhere but in the electoral college - the only place that counts under today's laws.
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