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4thTimeLucky · 06-19-2003, 12:38 PM

Lebell

Thanks for doing that search.

I guess it shows (a) that we really must keep questioning everything we read, and (b) that peer reviewed journals do work by encouraging critical responses to articles.

This is exactly the sort of research that I would expect anyone writing a book or newspaper article (i.e. Michael Moore) to do before they quoted without qualification. And I certainly wouldn't want them to find a "fact", not check it and then completely reshape, strecth and massage that "fact" into something different.

NB: If we were discussing Kellermann and not Moore think I would want to take issue with those criticisms of his article. They too seem to be playing on the "kill" v. "shoot" distinction and are twisting the facts t get from 43 to 2.7.

But let us not get completely disillusioned. Whether it is 43 times or 22 times or 2.7 times or even 0.2 times, there is a truth of the matter. Guns either are or are not more likely to harm their owner than a burglar. And the truth of the matter is important.

06-19-2003, 12:38 PM	#41 (permalink)
4thTimeLucky Psycho Location: 4th has left the building - goodbye folks	Lebell Thanks for doing that search. I guess it shows (a) that we really must keep questioning everything we read, and (b) that peer reviewed journals do work by encouraging critical responses to articles. This is exactly the sort of research that I would expect anyone writing a book or newspaper article (i.e. Michael Moore) to do before they quoted without qualification. And I certainly wouldn't want them to find a "fact", not check it and then completely reshape, strecth and massage that "fact" into something different. NB: If we were discussing Kellermann and not Moore think I would want to take issue with those criticisms of his article. They too seem to be playing on the "kill" v. "shoot" distinction and are twisting the facts t get from 43 to 2.7. But let us not get completely disillusioned. Whether it is 43 times or 22 times or 2.7 times or even 0.2 times, there is a truth of the matter. Guns either are or are not more likely to harm their owner than a burglar. And the truth of the matter is important. __________________ I've been 4thTimeLucky, you've been great. Goodnight and God bless! Last edited by 4thTimeLucky; 06-19-2003 at 12:41 PM..