Quote:
Originally Posted by samcol
how is this a victory for anyone? granted we dont fully know what's in this bill yet, but cutting 100 billion a year really isn't significant to help reduce the deficit or to hurt whatever programs they are coming from.
it just sounds like a straight forward debt ceiling raise to me.
|
It's generally a victory if one side gets more of what they wanted compared to what the other side wanted.
I'm reading that there is no tax reform outside of a bipartisan congressional committee, and we know how that would go now, don't we?
So basically we have a conservative plan that contains "modest" cuts instead of the more ideal cuts they may have wanted.
From a Democrat perspective? Eviscerated.
---------- Post added at 10:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 PM ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by filtherton
I think Obama is probably just assuming that he can rely on someone appalling like Michelle Bachmann to get the republican nomination and that his base would vote for him as a way of voting against her. Otherwise, if Romney gets it, it will be difficult to convince me, and perhaps a lot of other folk too, that there's any actually difference between each party's nominee.
I'd probably actually vote third party then.
|
At this point, Obama can be considered a de facto conservative, a kind of centre-right moderate that tries his best to govern in a way that pleases enough people to get something done. It just so happens he needed to please more Republicans than Democrats in this instance.