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Old 07-29-2011, 10:21 AM   #190 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
the idea of a republic retained the features of democratic deliberation within a wider political context that protected social class. because some animals are more equal than others, of course. but that changes nothing about the centrality of information in deliberation, nor does it change anything about the problems that are posed for democratic deliberation by pathological arguments. it's why plato used to get all snippy about the sophists, for example. but i digress.
Yes, let us return to those modern-day Sophists: the Tea Party.

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Three trillion dollars added to the federal debt and evidently no concern about getting the annual deficit under $1 trillion let alone back to the levels it was in 2007 speaks for itself.
I don't think it does. It doesn't say anything about taxes. It doesn't say anything about the recession.

It has no context. The only thing it speaks for is political myopia and the absence of context and history.

Obama has expressed more than once moving away from George W. Bush's ideas of "reducing the deficit." That Republicans are addicted to tax cuts is a huge part of the problem. That Obama is acting less and less like a Democrat and more like a Republican is another huge part of the problem.

For example, what part of "tax cuts expiring" doesn't help reduce the deficit?

Again, I ask why people don't think he wants to reduce deficits. Don't people read or watch the news anymore?

These plan proposals have included spending cuts. From what I've read, the Republicans should be fine with the proposed cuts. The problem is the Republicans' tax aversion. God forbid taxes go any higher. They've never been higher, right? America has never prospered with a higher tax rate. Ever. Right?
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